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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Feb 13, 2008 19:54
Pump and dump.
It works on Wall Street and it works in elections.
Find a weak unknown candidate and pump him all the way to his
nomination with pseudopopulist nonsense then, as soon as he's the
nominee, suddenly discover all kinds of dirt to dump on him.
Pump and dump won't work on a well known candidate like Clinton or Bob
Graham so they need someone like Kerry or Obama.
The media can then justify the dumping by pointing to all their
earlier pumping. They'll say, "see? We really are unbiased and
nopartisan. We both pumped and dumped Obama."
Bret Cahill
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Feb 13, 2008 23:05
On Feb 13, 7:54 pm, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:
> Pump and dump.
>
> It works on Wall Street and it works in elections.
>
> Find a weak unknown candidate and pump him all the way to his
> nomination with pseudopopulist nonsense then, as soon as he's the
> nominee, suddenly discover all kinds of dirt to dump on him.
>
> Pump and dump won't work on a well known candidate like Clinton or Bob
> Graham so they need someone like Kerry or Obama.
>
> The media can then justify the dumping by pointing to all their
> earlier pumping. They'll say, "see? We really are unbiased and
> nopartisan. We both pumped and dumped Obama."
>
> Bret Cahill
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Author: harwood.joshuaharwood.joshua Date: Feb 14, 2008 05:07
Things I'm sick of:
1. Pseudo philosophers
2. Ayn Rand
3. Libertarian.Libertarian.Libertarian
4. Paco Ahlgren
5. Ron Paul
6. Free Market. Free Market. Free Market.
How about some creative thinking and some originality? And how about
some compassion?
HOW ABOUT YOU READ NOAM CHOMSKY AND LEARN SOMETHING?
Joshua Harwood
The YANGIST
www.IHatePacoAhlgren.com
www.thatstherub.com
www.myspace.com/thatstherub
On Feb 14, 1:05 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 13, 7:54 pm, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:
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>> Pump and dump.
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>> It works on Wall Street and it works...
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Feb 14, 2008 07:57
re: hill v bar
Remembering Bruce Babbitt, Gore in' 88, Gary Hart, John Anderson
(independent), Paul Tsongas, Gene McCarthy, George McGovern, Howard
Dean and there are others i can't recall.
Generally these guys weren't considered of the establishment machine-
type, when they caught-on.
I perceive this may be Brett's fear about Obama:
If Barak gets the party nomination, the GOP will try to
ultimately dismantle him, fairly and/or fouly.
Don't ask me exactly how: Your shitey scenarios are as cynical as
mine.
If Hilllary gets the nomination, they'll smear her, whatever works.
Politiks ain't beanbag.
Both sides are prone to punch lowwwwww to get the prize.
Hatchet-bastardds (from both sides) do it.
And plus, in 2000, the GOP ultimately had the poltiks/bias of the
Supreme Court's majority
too (just to heap on more ugliness.).
I fear my cynicism is close enough to reality.
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Feb 14, 2008 11:58
> re: hill v bar
> Remembering Bruce Babbitt, Gore in' 88, Gary Hart, John Anderson
> (independent), Paul Tsongas, Gene McCarthy, George McGovern, Howard
> Dean and there are others i can't recall.
> Generally these guys weren't considered of the establishment machine-
> type, when they caught-on.
The levers of federal power seem so far away many young and
inexperienced Democrats don't see that real results oriented activism
at the national level is as mundane as taking out the trash or
cleaning the toilet.
Instead many Dems are like those religious tourists who show in
Jerusalem for the first time expecting to hear angels sing, and often
do. Listening to the Beatles "love is all you need" they believe
"inspiration" alone will carry the day.
The media for their part do everything they can to encourage this
nonsense.
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Feb 14, 2008 20:18
On Feb 14, 5:07 am, harwood.jos...@ gmail.com wrote:
> Things I'm sick of:
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Your sick?
> 1. Pseudo philosophers
What is a Real philosopher?
> 2. Ayn Rand
I like to try and understand about all philosophers.
> 3. Libertarian.Libertarian.Libertarian
> 4. Paco Ahlgren
Who da what? Is that a philosopher, or psuado?
> 5. Ron Paul
> 6. Free Market. Free Market. Free Market.
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> How about some creative thinking and some originality? And how about
> some compassion?
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I do that all the time.
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Feb 14, 2008 21:53
>> Things I'm sick of:
> Your sick?
That's "you're sick?"
And I agree with him. The bornagains, looneytarians, creationists,
randroids and "free marketry" types are as tedious and boring as they
come.
Just by their half baked boilerplate it's easy to tell that, unless
they are good at watching sheep or picking fruit, it is absolutely
_impossible_ for any of them to be anything other than a parasite on
society.
I'd rather watch grass dry. I'd rather listen to paint grow.
But if you want better government, you must debunk them. You _must_
spend 99%% of your time point out the obvious, that they are idiots.
>> 1. Pseudo philosophers
> What is a Real philosopher?
>> 2. Ayn Rand
> I like to try and understand about all philosophers.
Rand is some silly goose. No one who even had two books in his
library would call Rand a philosopher.
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Author: ShrikebackShrikeback Date: Feb 15, 2008 09:25
> Things I'm sick of:
> 1. Pseudo philosophers
> 2. Ayn Rand
> 3. Libertarian.Libertarian.Libertarian
> 4. Paco Ahlgren
> 5. Ron Paul
> 6. Free Market. Free Market. Free Market.
> How about some creative thinking and some originality? And how about
> some compassion?
> HOW ABOUT YOU READ NOAM CHOMSKY AND LEARN SOMETHING?
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Feb 15, 2008 11:49
On Feb 15, 9:25�am, "Shrikeback" hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Things I'm sick of:
>> 1. Pseudo philosophers
>> 2. Ayn Rand
>> 3. Libertarian.Libertarian.Libertarian
>> 4. Paco Ahlgren
>> 5. Ron Paul
>> 6. Free Market. Free Market. Free Market.
>> How about some creative thinking and some originality? And how about
>> some compassion?
>> HOW ABOUT YOU READ NOAM CHOMSKY AND LEARN SOMETHING?
>
> Gnome? �He's that guy who thought the
> Khmer Rouge was a force for the little
> guy, and they were slandered by the
> corp-whore press. �Gnome Chomsky, ...
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Feb 15, 2008 11:52
> �At
> least his prose is too stultifying and dull
> to make him all that popular.
Now that you have demonstrated your impressive vocabulary with the
word "stultifying" does that mean yer not gonna blow up federal
buildings and abortion clinics?
It seems there another rightard gun nut mass killing every day.
Bret Cahill
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