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Re: Hey JJ [JohnJones] As talk therapy declined, TV ads contributed to an "aura of invincibility" around drugs for depression and anxiety...         

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Author: John Jones
Date: Aug 6, 2008 11:53

turtoni wrote:
>
> In our western culture we pretty much live as small individual family
> units with many people living alone or with a partner and with often
> little contact with other possible family members.
>
> If we can accept that the body can become ill and that includes the
> brain then we generally consult external people from our family units
> that have studied an accumulation of information that has been
> generated over thousands of years.
>
> In our culture the most cost effective method to treat an illness is
> often by ingesting chemicals that have been clinically studied over
> decades of time.
>
> Smoking tobacco and marijuana, drinking alcohol or taking LSD to treat
> a mental illness does not appear to the best type of chemical options
> available. In fact they often appear to be counter productive. Your
> attraction to these types of methods likely stems from your
> connections to your peer (family type) groups.
>
> They might make you feel good in the short term but in the long term
> those peer groups will move away and at best you might be left with a
> few close friends or perhaps just a lover. Couple that with the fact
> that with some of those substances being illegal you're also
> endangering your future physical safety.
>
> It might be true to say that mental illness in *some* instances could
> be better treated by employing purely environmental factors like
> having a very supportive understanding family unit helping the person
> to get through the illness but in many cases this has proven to have
> been ineffective and often impossible.
>
> Taking mind altering chemicals that appear to provide the user with a
> better lifestyle under a controlled situation (like in going to a
> doctor) within the structure of our western culture would seem to our
> way of dealing with these situations.
>
> Most of us are not prepared to pay for the needs of others to provide
> the very best form of care. That's just plain and simple the facts of
> our culture.
>
> Non chemical types of interaction are generally extremely expensive
> and often (likely in part due to our cultural conditioning) the
> patient proves to be non-compliant.
>
> We're all often pretty self destructive. People have trouble in just
> even eating the right types foods in order to remain healthy as just
> one example.
>

I can't begin to argue for the methods which work best for mental
illness, because the term 'mental illness' is not a coherent idea; it is
a catch-word for the conditions for the implemnntation of psychiatric
medication regimes and other interventions. Even the psychiatrists are
loathe to use the term against other cultures.

It is not in the interest of these disease-mongers to understand
experience and how it reflects human nature. It is merely sufficient to
impose an information black-out by outing an 'illness'.

Outing an ill experience doesn't mean that you have to understand
anything about it. You only have to make it go away. This censorious
attitude, which is after all a commercial ploy, is proving disastrous
for vulnerable, gullible groups.

LSD and other psychedelics like marijuana, work through entirely
different pronciples. That is why psychiatrists have difficulty
promoting them. They cannot be employed within the model of disease.
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