On Aug 25, 9:13 am, "Sean"
blah.com> wrote:>> On Aug 24, 10:56 pm, "Sean"
blah.com> wrote:>>> "zinnic"
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>>>> On Aug 24, 5:49 pm, "Mars"
somewhere.com> wrote:>>>>> "zinnic"
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>>>>>> On Aug 24, 1:59 am, "Sean"
blah.com> wrote:>>>>>>> Welcome to the Grand illusion
>>>>>>> Come on in and see what's happening
>>>>>>> Pay the price, get your tickets for the show
>>>>>>> The stage is set, the band starts playing
>>>>>>> Suddenly your heart is pounding
>>>>>>> Wishing secretly you were a star.
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>>>>>>> But don't be fooled by the radio
>>>>>>> The TV or the magazines
>>>>>>> They show you photographs of how your life should be
>>>>>>> But they're just someone else's fantasy
>>>>>>> So if you think your life is complete confusion
>>>>>>> Because you never win the game
>>>>>>> Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
>>>>>>> And deep inside we're all the same.
>>>>>>> We're all the same...
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>>>>>>> So if you think your life is complete confusion
>>>>>>> Because your neighbors got it made
>>>>>>> Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
>>>>>>> And deep inside we're all the same.
>>>>>>> We're all the same...
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>>>>>>> America spells competition, join us in our blind ambition
>>>>>>> Get yourself a brand new motor car
>>>>>>> Someday soon we'll stop to ponder what on Earth's this spell we're
>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>> We made the grade and still we wonder who the hell we are
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>>>>>>> [Based on: STYX lyrics - "The Grand Illusion" (1977)
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>>>>>> Sounds like you derive your philosophy from pop culture. If it is
>>>>>> put
>>>>>> to primitive beat music, the groupie 'intelligentsia' will dance
>>>>>> along
>>>>>> to anything.
>>>>>> Why bother with elections, lets have a band/song contest instead.
>>>>>> Then
>>>>>> "Every thing will come out alright" (pick your own vacuous lyric).
>>>>>>Zinnic
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>>>>> I thought Sean's message was great - what inspires and motivates
>>>>> people
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>>>>> "sing" is an awful lot stronger than what inspires and motivates
>>>>> people
>>>>> to
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>>>> Obviously you got the message that Sean was sending in his lyric post!
>>>> Singing and entertainment has its place, but it is far better that
>>>> education inspire and motivate people to take responsibility for
>>>> their own and society's advancement. That way they can pay the piper
>>>> when the music stops and they have to make their own way in the world
>>>> of adults.
>>>> Regards
>>>>Zinnic
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>>> Sheesh now music and lyrics and story telling is merely the endeavour of
>>> the
>>> anti-social, the childish and the illiterate. My god, and you reckon
>>> brian's
>>> weird? LOL- Hide quoted text -
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>>> - Show quoted text
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>> I assume (another assumption)that "anti-social, the childish and the
>> illiterate" arise from your fevered mind. Cerainly not in my post.
>> "Methinks you protest too much!"
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> I'm sure you do.
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>> My point was, and remains, that time and effort are better spent on
>> educational activities. Syncompated bleatings that 'we are all the
>> same' takes little or no effort and does not hack it. It is also
>> patently absurd. We deserve to be equally valued for our humanity
>> but, given equal opportunity, we should expect to have to make
>> increased effort to compensate for lesser talent. That is, for not
>> being the same. Get real man, do the Math!
>> ie E x T = A
>> Where E is effort, T is talent and A is accomplishment.
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>> Too many choose to "dance all night" and claim are too tired to work
>> next day!
>> This is my pov with respect to life-styles. I do not care to get into
>> a political discussion unless you set it to the music of Schubert's-
>> Last Three Songs) :-)
>>Zinnic
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> You're welcome to your pov with respect to lifestyles. And you're certainly
> accomplished, in that the posting of the lyrics of one song have inspired
> you to the dizzying heights of communicating your particular pov vis-a-vis
> "lifestyles". Thanks for sharing.
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Let a really "accomplished" guy make my point for me. Daniel C. Dennet
in Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life (Ch.1
pp 17,18)
"TELL ME WHY.
Tell me why the stars do shine,
Tell me why the ivy twines,
Tell me why the sky's so blue.
Then I will tell you just whyI love you.
Because God made the stars to shine,
Because God made the ivy twine,
Because God made the sky so blue.
Because God made you, that's why I love you".
"This straight forward sentimental declaration still brings a lump to
my throat - so sweet, so innocent, so reassuring a vision of life".
"The sweet, simple version of the song , taken literally, is one that
most of us have outgrown, however fondly we may recall it".
Your sweet and sentimental political lyric simply put me in mind of
this. Sorry if it is irrelevant! (Not!)
Zinnic
