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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Feb 9, 2008 10:44
The terms 'gone' insane or that someone 'went' insane implies that a
person has 'gone' from normality and 'went' to some abnormal mental state.
Somewhere along the it might be a good thing to consider if people can be
insane not because THEY have gone somewhere but because they have stayed
in the same state and it's normality that 'went' or has 'gone' from one
state to another.
The stereotype for this type of thing is the old person who insists on
maintaining conformity to ideas or practices that they had known in their
younger days but which perpetual modern society has moved away from.
There is something else happening now however. Definitions of normality
are not being driven by the human norms of society but being tailored to
serve economic good.
Read this, it is only one example:
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http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/75081/
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Pretty fucked, eh?
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Author: THE BORGTHE BORG Date: Feb 9, 2008 10:57
"ZerkonX" X.net> wrote in message news:pan.2008.02.09.18.44.18@X.net...>
> The terms 'gone' insane or that someone 'went' insane implies that a
> person has 'gone' from normality and 'went' to some abnormal mental state.
>
> Somewhere along the it might be a good thing to consider if people can be
> insane not because THEY have gone somewhere but because they have stayed
> in the same state and it's normality that 'went' or has 'gone' from one
> state to another.
>
> The stereotype for this type of thing is the old person who insists on
> maintaining conformity to ideas or practices that they had known in their
> younger days but which perpetual modern society has moved away from.
>
> There is something else happening now however. Definitions of normality
> are not being driven by the human norms of society but being tailored to
> serve economic good.
>
> Read this, it is only one example:
> =========================== ...
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Author: John JonesJohn Jones Date: Feb 9, 2008 11:04
THE BORG wrote:
> "ZerkonX" X.net> wrote in message news:pan.2008.02.09.18.44.18@X.net...>> The terms 'gone' insane or that someone 'went' insane implies that a
>> person has 'gone' from normality and 'went' to some abnormal mental state.
>>
>> Somewhere along the it might be a good thing to consider if people can be
>> insane not because THEY have gone somewhere but because they have stayed
>> in the same state and it's normality that 'went' or has 'gone' from one
>> state to another.
>>
>> The stereotype for this type of thing is the old person who insists on
>> maintaining conformity to ideas or practices that they had known in their
>> younger days but which perpetual modern society has moved away from.
>>
>> There is something else happening now however. Definitions of normality
>...
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Feb 9, 2008 20:37
On Feb 9, 10:44 am, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:> The terms 'gone' insane or that someone 'went' insane implies that a
> person has 'gone' from normality and 'went' to some abnormal mental state.
>
> Somewhere along the it might be a good thing to consider if people can be
> insane not because THEY have gone somewhere but because they have stayed
> in the same state and it's normality that 'went' or has 'gone' from one
> state to another.
>
> The stereotype for this type of thing is the old person who insists on
> maintaining conformity to ideas or practices that they had known in their
> younger days but which perpetual modern society has moved away from.
>
> There is something else happening now however. Definitions of normality
> are not being driven by the human norms of society but being...
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Author: Don StockbauerDon Stockbauer Date: Feb 9, 2008 20:46
On Feb 9, 12:57 pm, "THE BORG" outthere.com> wrote:> "ZerkonX" X.net> wrote in messagenews:pan.2008.02.09.18.44.18@X.net...
>>> The terms 'gone' insane or that someone 'went' insane implies that a
>> person has 'gone' from normality and 'went' to some abnormal mental state.
>
>> Somewhere along the it might be a good thing to consider if people can be
>> insane not because THEY have gone somewhere but because they have stayed
>> in the same state and it's normality that 'went' or has 'gone' from one
>> state to another.
>
>> The stereotype for this type of thing is the old person who insists on
>> maintaining conformity to ideas or practices that they had known in their
>> younger days but which perpetual modern society has moved away from.
>
>> There is something else happening now however. Definitions of normality
>> are not being driven by the human norms of society but being tailored to
>> serve economic good.
>
>> Read this, it is only one example: ...
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Author: THE BORGTHE BORG Date: Feb 9, 2008 21:42
> Going insane will become common as the Global Brain locks in, for many
> will not be able to deal with its immense complexity.
Sounds great - more suffering for humans eh?
>
> I think you're cute, Ms. Borg. Wanna cyber?
Nah - THE BORG would not allow it.
They say humans very inferior - very unclean - they will not allow a human to
even touch me.
And the less we have to do with humans - the better we feel.
The RELIEF...
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Feb 10, 2008 05:51
On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:04:26 +0000, John Jones wrote:
> I know what insane is. But you can't explain it by saying its
> 'abnormal'. That's just replacing one confused heap with another. Did
> you not notice that?
I understand the ambiguity in the term "insane". I am aware that it has
no real medical or legal(?) meaning. The phrases 'mental illness' might
have been a better choice.
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Feb 10, 2008 06:18
On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:37:43 -0800, Immortalist wrote:
> Not just as a means to the ends of economics but politics also.
This has been on my scope for quit some time. You are almost too correct,
if this is possible. I just didn't want to get into that here.
The comparison to the soviet union, or what was portrayed as such, is
absolutely accurate. Over the last 20 years it has become common place to
describe common political positions as being "loony" "wacko" and the
rest. These terms are being applied so causally now by commercial
political shock jocks and parroted by their audience that, among some,
they have become a form of political "thought". It's so seductive because
on the one hand it is so easy on the other it feigns an opinion that has
been 'considered'. Sort of MacThink.
Then there is this crap coming from the intelligentsia(?):
http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20080102/NATION/203823370/1001
.. and it's being published!
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Feb 12, 2008 19:51
On Feb 10, 6:18 am, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:37:43 -0800, Immortalist wrote:
>> Not just as a means to the ends of economics but politics also.
>
> This has been on my scope for quit some time. You are almost too correct,
> if this is possible. I just didn't want to get into that here.
>
> The comparison to the soviet union, or what was portrayed as such, is
> absolutely accurate. Over the last 20 years it has become common place to
> describe common political positions as being "loony" "wacko" and the
> rest. These terms are being applied so causally now by commercial
> political shock jocks and parroted by their audience that, among some,
> they have become a form of political "thought". It's so seductive because
> on the one hand it is so easy on the other it...
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Feb 13, 2008 07:47
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:51:23 -0800, Immortalist wrote:
> Gotta be crazy right? In the post I made which you responded to there
> was alot of stuff about "ingroup" & "outgroup" behavior. I think when
> the ingroup attempts to "de-humanize" members of the outgroup there is
> usually an attempt to make the ingroup members into "brothers and
> sisters." Maybe we didn't evolve the ability to extend these familial
> drives to such large groups as we can form now. So the mistake is made,
> or I should say the deception is performed wher we attempt to make the
> large ingroup (seem) like family. Once achieved it is much esier to
> promote emotional strength behind attempts to dehumanize the people not
> in the "Family."
Humm I don't now about this. One the one hand what you say is true, on
the other in/outgroup seems relative to condition and circumstance also.
Being 'forced' into an ingroup that we are not really meant to have at an
evolutionary level... interesting. But, given that ingroups tend to
expand under normal conditions.. i don't know.
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