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Author: George HammondGeorge Hammond Date: Apr 20, 2008 14:28
GOD = RAP
(Relativistic Anthropic Principle)
The Anthropic Principle is well known to Science today.
Carter, Barrow, Tipler, Wheeler and even Hawking and Penrose
and Weinberg have written extensively on the subject.
What Science DOESN'T KNOW...
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Author: ShivverMeTimbersShivverMeTimbers Date: Apr 20, 2008 14:55
You cant see the forest for the trees.
You are looking at humanity through an electron microscope.
The only goal of any religion is to control all humanity
on the Earth and if possible the Entire Universe.
Science is an evolutionary step above Religion
but has been dominated by religion for religious ends.
Maybe one day Raw Science will recognize the HUMAN as
being a sacred animal then we can eliminate religion
all together and together we can understand
the universe in a nice and comfortable way.
Religion is ancient forms of Government that originated
prior to the Scientific Methodology.
We alive today are doomed to suffer because it will not die easily.
It seeks control by overpopulation as well as force and deception.
It ( the religious ) used to use poison to murder non-religious persons
until the 1800s when forensic science came along
and could hold such people accountable.
The crime of poisioning was punished in Roman times
by feeding the offender to the wild beast.
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Author: Jerry KrausJerry Kraus Date: Apr 20, 2008 15:08
On Apr 20, 4:55Â pm, "ShivverMeTimbers"
wrote:
> You cant see the forest for the trees.
> You are looking at humanity through an electron microscope.
>
> The only goal of any religion is to control all humanity
> on the Earth and if possible the Entire Universe.
>
> Science is an evolutionary step above Religion
> but has been dominated by religion for religious ends.
>
> Maybe one day Raw Science will recognize the HUMAN as
> being a sacred animal then we can eliminate religion
> all together and together we can understand
> the universe in a nice and comfortable way.
>
> Religion is ancient forms of Government that originated
> prior to the Scientific Methodology.
> We alive today are doomed to suffer because it will not die easily.
> It seeks control by overpopulation as well as force and deception. ...
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Author: Uncle AlUncle Al Date: Apr 20, 2008 15:14
George Hammond wrote:
>
> GOD = RAP
[snip rest of crap]
Hindus have 36 crores of gods - 360 million deities. How is India
doing, Georgie boy?
Idiot.
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Apr 20, 2008 16:03
> Â Â Fact is, the "Anthropic Principle" simply says:
> "observables exist because observers exist". Â After all, it
> doesn't take rocket science to figure out that if there was
> no such thing as an observer, then there would be no such
> thing as observables; since the testimony of observers is
> the ONLY WAY we know that the observables exist.
If a system observable is a property of the system state that can be
determined by some sequence of physical operations and if there was no
such thing as an observer, then it is not determined that there would
or would not be such things as observables even if the testimony of
observers is the ONLY WAY we know that the observables exist since
whether there is or is not someone existing doesn't determine
determinability and the possibility of abstract thought processes
whether they exist or not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable
Humans must exist for determinability to be possible.
Therefore All possibilities of determinability require humans to be
possible?
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Author: Peri of PeraPeri of Pera Date: Apr 20, 2008 18:23
On Apr 21, 7:03Â am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:>> Â Â Fact is, the "Anthropic Principle" simply says:
>> "observables exist because observers exist". Â After all, it
>> doesn't take rocket science to figure out that if there was
>> no such thing as an observer, then there would be no such
>> thing as observables; since the testimony of observers is
>> the ONLY WAY we know that the observables exist.
>
> If a system observable is a property of the system state that can be
> determined by some sequence of physical operations and if there was no
> such thing as an observer, then it is not determined that there would
> or would not be such things as observables even if the testimony of
> observers is the ONLY WAY we know that the observables exist since
> whether there is or is not someone existing doesn't determine
> determinability and the possibility of abstract thought processes
> whether they exist or not.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable
>
> Humans must exist for determinability to be possible. ...
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Author: George HammondGeorge Hammond Date: Apr 20, 2008 21:53
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:03:06 -0700 (PDT), Immortalist
yahoo.com> wrote:>
>
>> [Hammond]
>> Â Â Fact is, the "Anthropic Principle" simply says:
>> "observables exist because observers exist". Â After all, it
>> doesn't take rocket science to figure out that if there was
>> no such thing as an observer, then there would be no such
>> thing as observables; since the testimony of observers is
>> the ONLY WAY we know that the observables exist.
>
>
> [Immortalist]
>If a system observable is a property of the system state that can be
>determined by some sequence of physical operations and if there was no
>such thing as an observer, then it is not determined that there would
>or would not be such things as observables even if the testimony of
>observers is the ONLY WAY we know that the observables exist since
>whether there is or is not someone existing doesn't determine ...
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Author: John SmithJohn Smith Date: Apr 21, 2008 08:23
"George Hammond" notspam.org> wrote in message
news:476o04lprcm8rdqioar22cmlv9jl9id61e@4ax.com...> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:03:06 -0700 (PDT), Immortalist
> yahoo.com> wrote:>>
>>
>>> [Hammond]
>>> Fact is, the "Anthropic Principle" simply says:
>>> "observables exist because observers exist". After all, it
>>> doesn't take rocket science to figure out that if there was
>>> no such thing as an observer, then there would be no such
>>> thing as observables; since the testimony of observers is
>>> the ONLY WAY we know that the observables exist.
>>
>>
>> [Immortalist]
>>If a system observable is a property of the system state that can be
>>determined by some sequence of physical operations and if there was no
>>such thing as an observer, then it is not determined that there would
>>or would not be such things as observables even if the testimony of ...
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Author: Michael MoroneyMichael Moroney Date: Apr 21, 2008 09:36
George Hammond notspam.org> writes:
>On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:14:08 -0700, Uncle Al
> hate.spam.net> wrote:>>Hindus have 36 crores of gods - 360 million deities. How is India
>>doing, Georgie boy?
>>
>>Idiot.
>>
>[Hammond]
> The SPOG explains and PROVES why there are 30 demigods in
>Hindii; because there are 30 first order eigenvectors in
>Psychometric correlation matricess, worldwide .
Can't you read? Uncle Al wrote that Hinduism has 360 million deities,
not just 30. A "proof" that "proves" a wrong answer is pretty worthless,
don't you think? If I came up with a "proof" that "proved" why 2+2=12345
it would instantly be recognized as absurd.
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