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Author: James RedfordJames Redford Date: Aug 5, 2008 13:32
God has been proven to exist based upon the most reserved view of the
known laws of physics. For much more on that, see Prof. Frank J.
Tipler's below paper, which among other things demonstrates that the
known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, general
relativity, quantum mechanics, and the Standard Model of particle
physics) require that the universe end in the Omega Point (the final
cosmological singularity and state of infinite informational capacity
identified as being God):
F. J. Tipler, "The structure of the world from pure numbers," Reports
on Progress in Physics, Vol. 68, No. 4 (April 2005), pp. 897-964.
http://math.tulane.edu/~tipler/theoryofeverything.pdf Also released as
"Feynman-Weinberg Quantum Gravity and the Extended Standard Model as a
Theory of Everything," arXiv:0704.3276, April 24, 2007.
http://arxiv.org/abs/0704.3276
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Author: John StaffordJohn Stafford Date: Aug 5, 2008 14:20
On 8/5/08 3:32 PM, in article l6eh941hv7bah4s0i67afe86a0j54o4g8d@ 4ax.com,
"James Redford" yahoo.com> wrote:
> God has been proven to exist based upon the most reserved view of the
> known laws of physics. For much more on that, see Prof. Frank J.
> Tipler's below paper, which among other things demonstrates that the
> known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, general
> relativity, quantum mechanics, and the Standard Model of particle
> physics) require that the universe end in the Omega Point (the final
> cosmological singularity and state of infinite informational capacit
HERE IT COMES...
> identified as being God):
Yep. Jump to Miracle there.
[... Snip irrelevance ...]
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Author: M WintherM Winther Date: Aug 6, 2008 06:21
Den 2008-08-05 22:32:31 skrev James Redford yahoo.com>:
>
When discussing numbers one must also take into account the "quality"
of number, not only their abstract properties. M-L von Franz discusses
such a theory about the primacy of the quality of number in the
universe. The Pythagoreans, for their part, seemed to have viewed
numbers as "things", and as such they were the building blocks of the
universe. It's somewhat similar to Bertrand Russell's logical entities
of "between", "above" "below". These combine with sense-data to form a
universe. It seems like Plato in his thinking included the "qualities"
of entities such as numbers, cups and tables. In Diogenes Laërtius,
book 6, Plato engages Diogenes the Cynic:
»When Plato was discoursing about his "ideas," and using the nouns
"tableness " and "cupness ;" "I, O Plato!" interrupted Diogenes, "see
a table and a cup, but I see no tableness or cupness." Plato made
answer, "That is natural enough, for you have eyes, by which a cup and
a table are contemplated; but you have not intellect, by which
tableness and cupness are seen."«
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Aug 6, 2008 06:57
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:32:31 -0400, James Redford wrote:
> state of infinite informational capacity identified as being God
Is this identification the same process used to identify something as
being a dog or snow?
Has god actively declared himself as such (e.g. "Ok, you found me, I am
God) or is God, for want of a better idea, a 'logical' conclusion?
If one where to call this 'the proof that Zaktor' exists would this be
equally valid?
NOTE: Zaktor is an all powerful being who created everything and who gave
me and a few special friends special and exclusive revelations one of
which is that all mathematics is a metaphorical circle jerk unless it is
used for things like carpentry, weighing out bread and knowing when the
train arrives.
POST NOTE: If he was wrong about any of this, does he still exist?
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Aug 7, 2008 18:16
On Aug 6, 6:32Â am, James Redford yahoo.com> wrote:
> God has been proven to exist based upon the most reserved view of the
> known laws of physics. For much more on that, see Prof. Frank J.
> Tipler's below paper, which among other things demonstrates that the
> known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, general
> relativity, quantum mechanics, and the Standard Model of particle
> physics) require that the universe end in the Omega Point (the final
> cosmological singularity and state of infinite informational capacity
> identified as being God):
>
> F. J. Tipler, "The structure of the world from pure numbers," Reports
> on Progress in Physics, Vol. 68, No. 4 (April 2005), pp. 897-964.http://math.tulane.edu/~tipler/theoryofeverything.pdfAlso released as
> "Feynman-Weinberg Quantum Gravity and the Extended Standard Model as a
> Theory of Everything," arXiv:0704.3276, April 24, 2007.http://arxiv.org/abs/0704.3276
>
> Out of 50 articles, Prof. Tipler's above paper was selected as one of
> 12 for the "Highlights of 2005" accolade as "the very best articles
> published in Reports on Progress in Physics in 2005 [Vol. 68].
> Articles were selected by the Editorial Board for their outstanding
> reviews of the field. They all received the highest praise from our ...
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Aug 7, 2008 18:28
On Aug 6, 11:21Â pm, "M Winther" wrote:
> Den 2008-08-05 22:32:31 skrev James Redford yahoo.com>:
>
>
>
> When discussing numbers one must also take into account the "quality"
> of number, not only their abstract properties. M-L von Franz discusses
> such a theory about the primacy of the quality of number in the
> universe. The Pythagoreans, for their part, seemed to have viewed
> numbers as "things", and as such they were the building blocks of the
> universe. It's somewhat similar to Bertrand Russell's logical entities
> of "between", "above" "below". These combine with sense-data to form a
> universe. It seems like Plato in his thinking included the "qualities"
> of entities such as numbers, cups and tables. In Diogenes Laërtius,
> book 6, Plato engages Diogenes the Cynic:
>
> »When Plato was discoursing about his "ideas," and using the nouns
> "tableness " and "cupness ;" "I, O Plato!" interrupted Diogenes, "see
> a table and a cup, but I see no tableness or cupness." Plato made
> answer, "That is natural enough, for you have eyes, by which a cup and ...
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Aug 7, 2008 18:29
On Aug 6, 11:57Â pm, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:32:31 -0400, James Redford wrote:
>> state of infinite informational capacity identified as being God
>
> Is this identification the same process used to identify something as
> being a dog or snow?
>
> Has god actively declared himself  as such (e.g. "Ok, you found me, I am
> God) or is God, for want of a better idea, a 'logical' conclusion?
>
> If one where to call this 'the proof that Zaktor' exists would this be
> equally valid?
>
> NOTE: Zaktor is an all powerful being who created everything and who gave
> me and a few special friends special and exclusive revelations one of
> which is that all mathematics is a metaphorical circle jerk unless it is
> used for things like carpentry, weighing out bread and knowing when the
> train arrives.
>
> POST NOTE: If he was wrong about any of this, does he still exist? ...
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