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Author: Jack
Date: Jun 6, 2008 07:33

just a theory.
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Author: Sir Frederick
Date: Jun 6, 2008 10:39

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:33:54 -0400, "Jack" yahoo.com> wrote:
>just a theory.
>
Practice a "theory" enough and it will become
experienced as a fact, part of "reality".
Similar to your personification.
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Author: Mike E. Fullerton
Date: Jun 6, 2008 14:28

Jack wrote:
> just a theory.

And its the best theory of explaining why we have consciousness. Left in
its dust is its only "competing" theory, emergence, which absurdly
claims that consciousness magically arises out of thin air when a system
reaches the appropriate level of organization.

--
Skeptopathy (pathological skepticism)
the unscientific belief that unusual phenomena are bunk.
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Author: Art
Date: Jun 6, 2008 16:25

On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:28:14 GMT, "Mike E. Fullerton"
spam-killer-remove-techie.com> wrote:
>Jack wrote:
>> just a theory.
>
>And its the best theory of explaining why we have consciousness. Left in
>its dust is its only "competing" theory, emergence, which absurdly
>claims that consciousness magically arises out of thin air when a system
>reaches the appropriate level of organization.

Indeed. In fact, I think the building blocks of the universes (systems
of reality) are complex psychic mental units ... God stuff. The modern
mind is apt to reject such a notion since it's trained to think in
terms of building complex systems out of simple elements.

Art
http://home.ptd.net/~artnpeg
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Author: Shrikeback
Date: Jun 8, 2008 10:21

"Mike E. Fullerton" spam-killer-remove-techie.com> wrote in
message news:mCJ2k.15170$C12.13511@pd7urf3no...
> Shrikeback@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Jun 7, 7:27 am, "Mike E. Fullerton" >> techie.com> wrote:
>>> Shrikeb...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Jun 6, 2:28 pm, "Mike E. Fullerton" >>>> techie.com> wrote:
>>>>> Jack wrote:
>>>>>> just a theory.
>>>>> And its the best theory of explaining why we have consciousness. Left
>>>>> in
>>>>> its dust is its only "competing" theory, emergence, which absurdly
>>>>> claims that consciousness magically arises out of thin air when a
>>>>> system
>>>>> reaches the appropriate level of organization.
>>>> I have to say that the existence of conciousness is the
>>>> hard problem for dogmatic reductionistic materialists.
>>>> But how does God solve the problem? It merely passes
>>>> the buck. ...
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Author: Mike E. Fullerton
Date: Jun 9, 2008 12:29

andy-k wrote:
> Mike E. Fullerton wrote:
>> andy-k wrote:
>>> Mike proposed that consciousness is primary (in agreement with Peter
>>> Russell in the video lecture to which you posted a link), and this
>>> is a metaphysical stance with which I have considerable sympathy as
>>> you're well aware. But invoking 'god' is not necessary. To claim that the
>>> word 'god' is being used synonymously with "primary consciousness" would
>>> explain nothing -- it's just a word substitution and not an explanation.
>> The Universe is conscious, we get our consciousness from the Universe.
>> There's the explanation.
>
> That's enough.
>
>> God is the Universe and nothing more.
>
> Unnecessary and unproductive word substitution.
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Re: God is         


Author: Day Brown
Date: Jun 9, 2008 12:51

There is no god. But there is a Goddess, and that solves lotsa problems.

She has been known by lotsa names, The Great Earth Mother, Gaia, Potnia, Sophia, Dianna, Ianna, Hecate, Hera, Venus, Kali,... but there's no record of anyone ever being murdered cause they got the name wrong.

Could Osama Ben Ladin, the Jihadim, or Christian whackos claim justification for what they do in *HER* name? I dont _think_ so.

A lotta good people contribute money to religion. Get them to support the faith in the Goddess, and the above whackos would not be able to use that organization and its funding for their own violent purposes. You want peace? Worship the Goddess.
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Date: Jun 9, 2008 14:37

Day Brown wrote:
> There is no god. But there is a Goddess, and that solves lotsa
> problems.
>
> She has been known by lotsa names, The Great Earth Mother, Gaia,
> Potnia, Sophia, Dianna, Ianna, Hecate, Hera, Venus, Kali,... but
> there's no record of anyone ever being murdered cause they got the
> name wrong.
>
> Could Osama Ben Ladin, the Jihadim, or Christian whackos claim
> justification for what they do in *HER* name? I dont _think_ so.
>
> A lotta good people contribute money to religion. Get them to support
> the faith in the Goddess, and the above whackos would not be able to
> use that organization and its funding for their own violent purposes.
> You want peace? Worship the Goddess.

All hail the Goddess. But be warned
--
hell hath no fury like a woman scorned ;-)
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Date: Jun 9, 2008 14:38

Mike E. Fullerton wrote:
> andy-k wrote:
>> Mike E. Fullerton wrote:
>>> andy-k wrote:
>>>> Mike proposed that consciousness is primary (in agreement with
>>>> Peter Russell in the video lecture to which you posted a link),
>>>> and this is a metaphysical stance with which I have considerable
>>>> sympathy as you're well aware. But invoking 'god' is not necessary. To
>>>> claim that the word 'god' is being used synonymously with "primary
>>>> consciousness" would explain nothing -- it's just a word substitution
>>>> and not an explanation.
>>>
>>> The Universe is conscious, we get our consciousness from the
>>> Universe. There's the explanation.
>>
>> That's enough.
>>
>>> God is the Universe and nothing more.
>>
>> Unnecessary and unproductive word substitution. ...
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Author: Shrikeback
Date: Jun 9, 2008 18:11

"Day Brown" daybrown.org> wrote in message
news:1213040523_573@alibistextweb.com...
> There is no god. But there is a Goddess, and that solves lotsa problems.

If deities are coming anatomically correct these
days, I'd say the biggest problem with males is
their tendency to spray. But you get them fixed,
and that's no problem.

Anyway, spaying or neutering your pet is the
humane thing to do what with all the feral gods
starving out there.
> She has been known by lotsa names, The Great Earth
> Mother, Gaia, Potnia, Sophia, Dianna, Ianna, Hecate,
> Hera, Venus, Kali,... but there's no record of anyone
> ever being murdered cause they got the name wrong.

In this religion-eat-religion world, I really doubt that nobody
was ever murdered because they got the name wrong.
On the other hand, it's pretty obvious that Goddess-worship
didn't have what it take to survive in the darwinistic struggle
of memes.
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