With ample evidence discovered by science, the thesis of an "infinite
universe" was tossed onto the scrap-heap of the history of scientific
ideas. Yet, more important questions were forthcoming: what existed
before the Big Bang? What force could have caused the great explosion
that resulted in a universe that did not exist before?

There is a single answer to be given to the question of what existed
before the Big Bang: God, the All-powerful and the Almighty, Who
created the earth and the heavens in great order. Many scientists, be
they believers or not, are obliged to admit this truth. Although they
may decline to admit this fact on scientific platforms, their
confessions in between the lines give them away. Renowned atheist
philosopher Anthony Flew says:

Notoriously, confession is good for the soul. I will therefore begin
by confessing that the Stratonician atheist has to be embarrassed by
the contemporary cosmological consensus. For it seems that the...

Hamady gmail.com> wrote:

Talking about "before the big bang" is nonsensical, because time itself
didn't exist until that moment, so there is no "before" it.

All that exists was created in the "big bang", if your god exists, it
couldn't have existed before that moment (there was no before that
moment,) and therefore your god could not have caused it.

Hamady wrote:

It's a language issue. The concept of Infinity is safely unrealized,
privately interpreted, mathematically symbolic. What it really is cannot
matter until humankind understands why it is a necessary concept, and
that ain't gonna happen with our existing genetic makeup. We've maxed
out on it's intelligence potential.

So, until then, God is necessary to many. Living in benign insecurity is
another alternative.

Hamady wrote:

That's the popular characterization. Actual Big Bang theory does not
concern an explosion of matter into already existing space, but the
development of the universe over time (you're right that BBT isn't about
an *origin* of the universe, if it needed one). If the *observable
universe* was once the size of a pea, that concerns the area we observe
(13+ billion light-years in every direction around us). The rest of the
cosmos, even if more compact back then as well, could still have been
gigantic in contrast to the limited region we can only observe (today)
because the light from greater distances hasn't reached us yet.

On Aug 18, 1:40 am, "Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote:

I love it when you guys talk dirty <;-).....

Eternity is not about time.The mind is. The universe is 'breathing in
and out'.

On Aug 18, 2:29 am, n...@webtv.net (Rec Room) wrote:

On Aug 17, 5:40 pm, "Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote:

So you "know" that our universe is not part of a multiverse then?

The many worlds interpretation of quantum theory is just rubbish then?
The four levels of multiverse are crap? (I might agree with the 4th
being rubbish anyway as I simply cannot accept information theory as a
serious basis for making cosmology predictions) Bubble theory is
bogus, string theory is strange, and m-theory is madness?

You are the scientific eqivalent of an old testament prophet.

Maybe you and the other prophets existed in a parent universe which
tunneled out of the quantum foam of a grandprophet universe

Errol gmail.com> wrote:

I know that a god cannot create that which he must, by definition, be
part of.

Universe is one, hence the name. It is all that is, was or ever will be.

How do you establish what is in the "universe" and what is outside it in
this case?

No, I just define my words a little more precisely.