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Author: THE BORG
Date: Mar 11, 2008 12:49

God - however you perceive God - male - female - adult - child - horse -
bird - or indeed even cardboard box is not really anything to do with
religion.

God is to do with music and pleasure and love and nature and harmony and
drugs and intelligence and great humour and interest and bliss and all kinds
of thing.
Although there are stories and religious interpretations of God - they are
not really as broad or expansive as how it is and cannot really explain the
nature of the concept of God.

To find God - you need only look at the sky - and say "I wonder why there are
clouds and how or why they are so lovely?"

The nature of God is not do to with salvation and suffering and sin and
purgatory and these kind of religious notions.
God is more to do with the sound of the wind - how it makes you feel nice and
safe indoors on a windy rainy day - and beautiful music you hear sometimes in
your dreams - or echoes here and there on the radio.

Humans should learn to drop the serious religious notions of God - and
embrace the truth for what it is.
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Author: John Jones
Date: Mar 11, 2008 12:58

THE BORG wrote:
> God - however you perceive God - male - female - adult - child - horse -
> bird - or indeed even cardboard box is not really anything to do with
> religion.
>
> God is to do with music and pleasure and love and nature and harmony and
> drugs and intelligence and great humour and interest and bliss and all kinds
> of thing.
> Although there are stories and religious interpretations of God - they are
> not really as broad or expansive as how it is and cannot really explain the
> nature of the concept of God.
>
> To find God - you need only look at the sky - and say "I wonder why there are
> clouds and how or why they are so lovely?"
>
> The nature of God is not do to with salvation and suffering and sin and
> purgatory and these kind of religious notions.
> God is more to do with the sound of the wind - how it makes you feel nice and
> safe indoors on a windy rainy day - and beautiful music you hear sometimes in
> your dreams - or echoes here and there on the radio. ...
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Author: THE BORG
Date: Mar 11, 2008 13:04

"John Jones" aol.com> wrote in message
news:fr6o88$f4s$1@aioe.org...
> There is one place where you won't find God, and that's in a clinicians
> diagnosis. A diagnosis of mental illness asserts that our soul is chemical
> and hence beyond even God's understanding of us as human.
>
> A chemically corrupted soul, a 'mentally ill' person is not a soul or
> person at all, but a chemical failure that must be treated chemically, with
> pills, and understood chemically.
>
> That's a belief I've never subscribed to, but all doctors subscribe to it,
> as do 'their patients', or followers as I prefer to call them, in this
> awful creed.

Indeed.
There is no replacement for love and sympathy and kindness. And the time
taken to understand and help - rather than abrupt diagnosis and the chemical
dismissal.
THE BORG
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Author: THE BORG
Date: Mar 11, 2008 13:12

"John Jones" aol.com> wrote in message
news:fr6o88$f4s$1@aioe.org...
> There is one place where you won't find God, and that's in a clinicians
> diagnosis. A diagnosis of mental illness asserts that our soul is chemical
> and hence beyond even God's understanding of us as human.
>
> A chemically corrupted soul, a 'mentally ill' person is not a soul or
> person at all, but a chemical failure that must be treated chemically, with
> pills, and understood chemically.
>
> That's a belief I've never subscribed to, but all doctors subscribe to it,
> as do 'their patients', or followers as I prefer to call them, in this
> awful creed.

And indeed as you say - there are many places where you will not find God.
You won't find him either in selfishness or spite or cruelty or art that is
ugly and purely created for mercenary means and in many other sectors and
places which still do exist on Earth.
But you will certainly find him in the windswept landscapes of Antarctica.
THE BORG
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Author: John Jones
Date: Mar 11, 2008 13:36

THE BORG wrote:
> "John Jones" aol.com> wrote in message
> news:fr6o88$f4s$1@aioe.org...
>
>> There is one place where you won't find God, and that's in a clinicians
>> diagnosis. A diagnosis of mental illness asserts that our soul is chemical
>> and hence beyond even God's understanding of us as human.
>>
>> A chemically corrupted soul, a 'mentally ill' person is not a soul or
>> person at all, but a chemical failure that must be treated chemically, with
>> pills, and understood chemically.
>>
>> That's a belief I've never subscribed to, but all doctors subscribe to it,
>> as do 'their patients', or followers as I prefer to call them, in this
>> awful creed.
>
> And indeed as you say - there are many places where you will not find God.
> You won't find him either in selfishness or spite or cruelty or art that is
> ugly and purely created for mercenary means and in many other sectors and
> places which still do exist on Earth. ...
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Author: THE BORG
Date: Mar 11, 2008 14:33

"John Jones" aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> I would think so.
>
>
> I made a post on the Borg some time ago. Here it is:
>
> When the second generation Star Trek came out, they had a number of aliens
> that were behaviourially unique, interesting, all seemingly portrayed as
> sacred in the eyes of an unspoken-of God. Especially the Borg! It was a
> revelation to have an insight into other possible ways of being, their
> ways. But then the authors succumbed to some dark pressures and made
> inherently 'bad' aliens. These were just aspects of ourselves.
>
> So, in keeping with the "Kill the Nasty Alien" trend, the Borg that started
> out unique and good in the greater scheme of things, ended up being
> portrayed as Schwarzeneggar-type terminators with that one red eye and a
> vitamin C deficiency. Sad.
> ...
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Author: THE BORG
Date: Mar 11, 2008 16:23

God is not an old man with a beard or anything like this.
He loves children - and children are drawn to him and love him and trust him
completely.
They have no fear of God as some grown ups do.
In Heaven at Christmas he sometimes dons a white beard and appears as Father
Christmas.
The children squeal with delight!
"It is the REAL Father Christmas" they say.
And he has them all singing and dancing merrily.
A question many children ask when they see someone in a long white beard who
says they are Father Christmas is
"Are you the REAL Father Christmas?"
But they are always disappointed as in their hearts they know how the real
one goes.
Even in heaven God cannot be Father Christmas every year - and replacements
are quite good and the children very happy as people are always happy in
heaven...
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Author: THE BORG
Date: Mar 11, 2008 16:52

Humans really do have their own heaven.
You should really stop all this cosmic this and universe that - these kind of
words are far too big for you - the same as religion is far too serious.
There is no jesus wandering around - it is more a presence that everyone
knows there is a God and that there in heaven - there is only love and
everyone is happy.
The understanding of God and so many parts of God that you do not know of and
the eternal kindness that extends toward all living things in that there is
never any fear that you would be "left out" or that anyone would not get to
heaven for anything they have done.
WHATEVER you have done you will receive only love and it is this kind of
immense gratitude that in many ways causes the happiness in heaven - that
sinners and murderers are...
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