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Author: V for Vendicar
Date: Jul 22, 2008 22:01

gmail.com> wrote
> I didn't mean anything other than what I stated.

GM, Ford `On the Verge of Bankruptcy,' Altman Says (Update2)

By Greg Miles and Caroline Salas

July 22 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co., the two
biggest U.S. automakers, have about a 46 percent chance of default within
five years, according to Edward Altman, a finance professor at New York
University's Stern School of Business.

``Both are in very serious shape and the markets reflect that,'' Altman, the
creator of the Z-score mathematical formula that measures bankruptcy risk,
said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. The model shows that these
companies are ``on the verge of bankruptcy,'' he said.

The Z-scores for GM and Ford give both a bond rating equivalent to a CCC
ranking, though GM is in slightly worse condition than Ford, Altman said. GM
reported a $38.7 billion loss in 2007, the biggest in its 100-year history,
and hasn't posted a profit since 2004. The scores are based on the
companies' finances at the end of the first quarter.
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Re: GM on verge of Bankrutpcy         


Author: turtoni
Date: Jul 22, 2008 22:26

On Jul 23, 1:01 am, "V for Vendicar"
hotmail.com> wrote:
> gmail.com> wrote
>
>> I didn't mean anything other than what I stated.
>
> GM, Ford `On the Verge of Bankruptcy,' Altman Says (Update2)
>
> By Greg Miles and Caroline Salas
>
> July 22 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co., the two
> biggest U.S. automakers, have about a 46 percent chance of default within
> five years, according to Edward Altman, a finance professor at New York
> University's Stern School of Business.
>
> ``Both are in very serious shape and the markets reflect that,'' Altman, the
> creator of the Z-score mathematical formula that measures bankruptcy risk,
> said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. The model shows that these
> companies are ``on the verge of bankruptcy,'' he said.
> ...
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Re: GM on verge of Bankrutpcy         


Author: BretCahill
Date: Jul 22, 2008 22:45

> GM, Ford `On the Verge of Bankruptcy,' Altman Says (Update2)
>
> By Greg Miles and Caroline Salas
>
> July 22 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co., the two
> biggest U.S. automakers, have about a 46 percent chance of default within
> five years, according to Edward Altman, a finance professor at New York
> University's Stern School of Business.

That's reassuring.

I was surprised they were still around.

Bret Cahill
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Re: GM on verge of Bankrutpcy         


Author: BretCahill
Date: Jul 22, 2008 22:52

> Cars in their current configuration are "bankrupt".

And if there's one thing GM cannot do, it's change a configuration.

Bret Cahill
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Re: GM on verge of Bankrutpcy         


Author: turtoni
Date: Jul 22, 2008 23:10

On Jul 23, 1:52 am, BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:
>> Cars in their current configuration are "bankrupt".
>
> And if there's one thing GM cannot do, it's change a configuration.
>
> Bret Cahill

Is GM an extension of socialism?

Yes..

Capitalism appears to be more based upon the foundations of:

"...apply to ourselves the same standards we apply to others" is one
of the central evils of our society--promoting injustices such as war
and social inequalities in a framework of self-deception, which
includes the notion that hypocrisy itself is a necessary or beneficial
part of human behavior and society."

A car for everyone; please!

heh.
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Re: GM on verge of Bankrutpcy         


Author: V for Vendicar
Date: Jul 22, 2008 23:40

>> GM, Ford `On the Verge of Bankruptcy,' Altman Says (Update2)
>>
>> By Greg Miles and Caroline Salas
>>
>> July 22 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co., the two
>> biggest U.S. automakers, have about a 46 percent chance of default within
>> five years, according to Edward Altman, a finance professor at New York
>> University's Stern School of Business.

peoplepc.com> wrote
> That's reassuring.
>
> I was surprised they were still around.

And not more than a year ago, RepubliKKKunts in this very newsgroup were
denying that GM, Ford, or Chrystler were failing.

They were RepubliKKKan Liars then, and they are RepubliKKKan liars now.
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Re: GM on verge of Bankrutpcy         


Author: Claude Hopper
Date: Jul 24, 2008 05:45

V for Vendicar wrote:
> gmail.com> wrote
>> I didn't mean anything other than what I stated.
>
> GM, Ford `On the Verge of Bankruptcy,' Altman Says (Update2)
>
> By Greg Miles and Caroline Salas
>
> July 22 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co., the two
> biggest U.S. automakers, have about a 46 percent chance of default within
> five years, according to Edward Altman, a finance professor at New York
> University's Stern School of Business.
>
> ``Both are in very serious shape and the markets reflect that,'' Altman, the
> creator of the Z-score mathematical formula that measures bankruptcy risk,
> said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. The model shows that these
> companies are ``on the verge of bankruptcy,'' he said.
>
> The Z-scores for GM and Ford give both a bond rating equivalent to a CCC
> ranking, though GM is in slightly worse condition than Ford, Altman said. GM ...
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