Nic wrote:
>>On 14 Mar, 14:25, TruthSlave
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>>>like seeing a future partner in a dream before you might meet them
>>>in unexpected circumstances...dreaming of a phone number (I had
>>>one of those) phoning it and meeting the love of your life (I didn't
>>>have the nerve to phone the one I dreamed of, cos someone would'a
>>>said I wuz mad!) Dreaming of a someone elses dead relative that
>>>you never saw before, family who you've never met, then later having
>>>a baby and when you're shown the family photo's you see that relative
>>>once again...
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>>Speaking of the extra sensory, I've always thought the claimed
>>'Remote Viewer' was a case of a person being used, perhaps
>>without them knowing it, as a CONduit or 'go between' for
>>information.
>>
>>X relates what might only known by means of advance technology,
>>or inside knowledge, yet he seemingly has no connection to
>>either. How is it done? It could be that person X is sensitive,
>>in ways which would escape most people, to external influence.
>>Types who lend themselves to a degree of subliminal programming.
>>
>>As for why it is done. The answer would of course be to hide
>>knowledge of the technology or the insider. There would be the
>>question of who[] is hiding what[] from whom[]?
>>
>>This is of course me coming at the claimed 'type' from a
>>rational point of view. The alternative is to say there
>>really are little green men, flying saucers [I know I know]
>>and people with the ability to place themselves in another
>>time and location.- Hide quoted text -
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>
> Its interesting, subliminals in advertising are outlawed in UK,
> although we do get 'liminals' kinda a vauge reference in
> counterpoint to the aural or visuals...I mean...you get those
> in a good film, a good storyline, plot, or piece of music when
> you could anticipate a conclusion 'somehow'
>
> In other ways if you're given a simple piece of mathematics
> to do...you can anticipate a conclusion by figuring equasions,
> life follows a certain pattern,a routine maybe, and anything
> contrary to that...outside of that routine is rare, one becomes
> concious of it.
>
> I read somewhere that when hypnotised,under certain conditions
> twins were more sensitive to one anothers anxieties, the cases
> where twins were adopted and brought up in different families
> who married people with the same name, did the same jobs
> wore the same brands and style of clothes are really amazing !
>
> have you ever had a certain 'feeling' associated with an event
> in your life? and sometimes the same feeling reaccurs?....
> Over and above all of that, if someone knows you have a certain
> feeling about a certain event, you could be teased, intimidated
> or rewarded with repeats. Of course it is strange to ask people
> why they feel these unique feelings, because being happy for
> instance is such a universal constant...
>
> One example of being suckered by someone is being 'rewarded'
> with something that you desperately needed, which is then taken
> out of your hands just to stress the fact that you're feelings
> are so very insignificant and the very least important. In fact
> your needs are beneath the dignity of listening to your complaint
> or further request.
>
Interesting point about subliminal. These may well be out-
lawed based on the technical definition of what constitute
the subliminal. The mechanistic, and thus ultimately
detectable, use of subliminals may be outlawed, but like
you i see the use of subliminals in those unrelenting
juxtapositions which feed the culture, these inexplicable
attachments between ideas which seem somehow to escape the
consideration of our legislators. Conclusions intended to
be witnessed in the mind of the individual, which unless
science agrees, is left solely as the judgment of the
individual.
For example there's the way sex and violence are harnessed
in its crudest form, one to follow the other. Culture for
those who won't think much beyond these basic cues. Culture
to limit thought to mere instinct. So we play, and are
played with. ['liminals' I like that. ;-]
The anecdotal on twins seem to captivate science, i wonder
why exactly that is? As if an innate programing was revealed
in our biology. Tendencies towards certain wants or needs.
The will exerted on us through our genes. Biological
predisposition, propensity towards certain outcomes, which
to some is taken as clues to this innate control.
One answers the feeling with a thought. The culture we
share having much to say on that response. This, says
the culture, is the appropriate or desired response to
the particular cue. If you don't respond accordingly
there is something wrong with you. It's as if one stands
defiant of the science and all invested there.
Those twins subjected to the same culture might be more
predisposed to these culturally derived connections.
Having the same feelings, propelled by culture to answer
the feeling with the same response.
Maybe we are all lab rats without knowing it? In an
experiment we can not fathom. Mind games, our highly
selective culture imprints on us, those of us who can't
see where thought or instinct ends, and control begins.
BTW rewards work both ways, rewards for the bad as the
good, as indeed does the lack of rewards....
