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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Jul 27, 2008 22:14
Fundamental human needs, according to the school of "Human Scale
Development" developed by Manfred Max Neef and others (Antonio
Elizalde and Martin Hopenhayn), are seen as ontological (stemming from
the condition of being human), are few, finite and classifiable (as
distinct from the conventional notion of conventional economic "wants"
that are infinite and insatiable). They are also constant through all
human cultures and across historical time periods. What changes over
time and between cultures is the strategies by which these needs are
satisfied. It is important that human needs are understood as a system
- i.e. they are interrelated and interactive. In this system, there is
no hierarchy of needs (apart from the basic need for subsistence or
survival) as postulated by Western psychologists...
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Jul 27, 2008 22:17
On Jul 27, 10:14 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
> Fundamental human needs, according to the school of "Human Scale
> Development" developed by Manfred Max Neef and others (Antonio
> Elizalde and Martin Hopenhayn), are seen as ontological (stemming from
> the condition of being human), are few, finite and classifiable (as
> distinct from the conventional notion of conventional economic "wants"
> that are infinite and insatiable). They are also constant through all
> human cultures and across historical time periods. What changes over
> time and between cultures is the strategies by which these needs are
> satisfied. It is important that human needs are understood as a system
> - i.e. they are interrelated and interactive. In this system, there is
> no hierarchy of needs (apart from the basic need for subsistence or
> survival) as postulated by Western psychologists such as Maslow,
> rather, simultaneity, complementarity and trade-offs are features of
> the process of needs satisfaction.
>
> Manfred Max-Neef and his colleagues developed a taxonomy of human
> needs and a process by which communities can identify their "wealths"
> and "poverties" according to how their fundamental human needs are
> satisfied. ...
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Jul 27, 2008 22:24
On Jul 28, 1:17 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Needs are also defined according to the existential categories of
>> being, having, doing and interacting, and from these dimensions, a 36
>> cell matrix is developed"
>
>
> Is that like Abraham Maslow's hierarchy of needs?
No. It's not the same.
"While Maslow's theory was regarded as an improvement over previous
theories of personality and motivation, it had its detractors. For
example, in their extensive review of research which is dependent...
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Jul 27, 2008 23:19
On Jul 27, 10:24 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
> On Jul 28, 1:17 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Needs are also defined according to the existential categories of
>>> being, having, doing and interacting, and from these dimensions, a 36
>>> cell matrix is developed"
>
>
>> Is that like Abraham Maslow's hierarchy of needs?
>
> No. It's not the same.
>
It makes sense that needs are more like a network of interacting
relationships. But Maslow does have a point that some needs must be
met to some degree before other needs can even be considered. If your
starved you can't think much about sex and love, for instance.
> "While Maslow's theory was regarded as an improvement over previous
> theories of personality and motivation, it had its detractors. For
> example, in their extensive review of research which is dependent...
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Author: toolytooly Date: Jul 28, 2008 05:43
> Max-Neef classifies the fundamental human needs as:
>
> subsistence,
> protection,
> affection,
> understanding,
> participation,
> recreation (in the sense of leisure, time to reflect, or idleness),
> creation,
> identity and
> freedom.
>
Spokes upon a wheel, whereupon, if any spoke is missing, the other spokes
MUST take up additional load. I would wager most of us are lopsided.
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Jul 28, 2008 07:31
On Jul 28, 8:43 am, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> Max-Neef classifies the fundamental human needs as:
>
>> subsistence,
>> protection,
>> affection,
>> understanding,
>> participation,
>> recreation (in the sense of leisure, time to reflect, or idleness),
>> creation,
>> identity and
>> freedom.
>
> Spokes upon a wheel, whereupon, if any spoke is missing, the other spokes
> MUST take up additional load. I would wager most of us are lopsided.
>
> I once had a theory that we 'learn' from need. By this, a person of great
> need in any area might become an expert of sorts on that area [requiring
> more focus than others just for minimal returns]. A kid watching on while
> his Mom gets battered by scumbag father might grow up like Batman for ...
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Author: toolytooly Date: Jul 30, 2008 16:03
"turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote in message
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On Jul 28, 8:43 am, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> Max-Neef classifies the fundamental human needs as:
>
>> subsistence,
>> protection,
>> affection,
>> understanding,
>> participation,
>> recreation (in the sense of leisure, time to reflect, or idleness),
>> creation,
>> identity and
>> freedom.
>
> Spokes upon a wheel, whereupon, if any spoke is missing, the other spokes
> MUST take up additional load. I would wager most of us are lopsided.
>
> I once had a theory that we 'learn' from need. By this, a person of great
> need in any area might become an expert of sorts on that area [requiring ...
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Jul 30, 2008 16:54
On Jul 28, 3:14 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
> Fundamental human needs, according to the school of "Human Scale
> Development" developed by Manfred Max Neef and others (Antonio
> Elizalde and Martin Hopenhayn), are seen as ontological (stemming from
> the condition of being human), are few, finite and classifiable (as
> distinct from the conventional notion of conventional economic "wants"
> that are infinite and insatiable). They are also constant through all
> human cultures and across historical time periods. What changes over
> time and between cultures is the strategies by which these needs are
> satisfied. It is important that human needs are understood as a system
> - i.e. they are interrelated and interactive. In this system, there is
> no hierarchy of needs (apart from the basic need for subsistence or
> survival) as postulated by Western psychologists such as Maslow,
> rather, simultaneity, complementarity and trade-offs are features of
> the process of needs satisfaction.
>
> Manfred Max-Neef and his colleagues developed a taxonomy of human
> needs and a process by which communities can identify their "wealths"
> and "poverties" according to how their fundamental human needs are
> satisfied. ...
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Jul 30, 2008 17:02
On Jul 28, 4:19 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 27, 10:24 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 28, 1:17 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Needs are also defined according to the existential categories of
>>>> being, having, doing and interacting, and from these dimensions, a 36
>>>> cell matrix is developed"
>
>
>>> Is that like Abraham Maslow's hierarchy of needs?
>
>> No. It's not the same.
>
> It makes sense that needs are more like a network of interacting
> relationships. But Maslow does have a point that some needs must be
> met to some degree before other needs can even be considered. If your
> starved you can't think much about sex and love, for instance.
> ...
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Jul 30, 2008 17:09
On Jul 28, 10:43 pm, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> Max-Neef classifies the fundamental human needs as:
>
>> subsistence,
>> protection,
>> affection,
>> understanding,
>> participation,
>> recreation (in the sense of leisure, time to reflect, or idleness),
>> creation,
>> identity and
>> freedom.
>
> Spokes upon a wheel, whereupon, if any spoke is missing, the other spokes
> MUST take up additional load. I would wager most of us are lopsided.
>
> I once had a theory that we 'learn' from need. By this, a person of great
> need in any area might become an expert of sorts on that area [requiring
> more focus than others just for minimal returns]. A kid watching on while
> his Mom gets battered by scumbag father might grow up like Batman for ...
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