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Freedom isn't free         


Author: ta
Date: Jun 23, 2008 08:19

That's the what the bumper sticker on the car in the parking lot
said . . .

If you believe that, then are you saying we are born into slavery?
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Re: Freedom isn't free         


Author: Bret Cahill
Date: Jun 23, 2008 08:44

> That's the what the bumper sticker on the car in the parking lot
> said . . .
> If you believe that, then are you saying we are born into slavery?

Only if we don't pay our taxes, taxes being the price of freedom.

Why Milton Friedman ever thought there was a free lunch on liberty is
beyond me.

Bret Cahill
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Re: Freedom isn't free         


Author: Jack
Date: Jun 23, 2008 08:57

"ta" nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:72d4ff60-d53f-4625-a570-062df7ae1356@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> That's the what the bumper sticker on the car in the parking lot
> said . . .
>
> If you believe that, then are you saying we are born into slavery?

No. I had nothing to do with that bumper sticker.
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Re: Freedom isn't free         


Author: ta
Date: Jun 23, 2008 09:19

On Jun 23, 11:57 am, "Jack" yahoo.com> wrote:
> "ta" nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> news:72d4ff60-d53f-4625-a570-062df7ae1356@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> That's the what the bumper sticker on the car in the parking lot
>> said . . .
>
>> If you believe that, then are you saying we are born into slavery?
>
> No. I had nothing to do with that bumper sticker.

Are you sure? This truck had also had an NRA sticker, gun rack, and a
vanity plate (Virgina) that read: "JACK".
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Re: Freedom isn't free         


Author: Jack
Date: Jun 23, 2008 09:23

"ta" nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:a7ca6243-2a2f-416d-bd1e-18a66543d640@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 23, 11:57 am, "Jack" yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "ta" nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:72d4ff60-d53f-4625-a570-062df7ae1356@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> That's the what the bumper sticker on the car in the parking lot
>>> said . . .
>>
>>> If you believe that, then are you saying we are born into slavery?
>>
>> No. I had nothing to do with that bumper sticker.
>
> Are you sure? This truck had also had an NRA sticker, gun rack, and a
> vanity plate (Virgina) that read: "JACK".

Yeah Jack is a common redneck name.
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Re: Freedom isn't free         


Author: Publius
Date: Jun 23, 2008 10:56

Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote in news:cdd561cb-0653-47da-bf19-
75b622ec7741@f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
>> If you believe that, then are you saying we are born into slavery?
>
> Only if we don't pay our taxes, taxes being the price of freedom.
>
> Why Milton Friedman ever thought there was a free lunch on liberty is
> beyond me.

He didn't.
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Re: Freedom isn't free         


Author: ZerkonX
Date: Jun 24, 2008 03:08

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:19:07 -0700, ta wrote:
> That's the what the bumper sticker on the car in the parking lot said .
> . .
>
> If you believe that, then are you saying we are born into slavery?

This crap is unAmerican or violates Americanism which states that
'liberty', which is quite different than the babble-speak 'freedom',
liberty is given to each by 'nature and nature's god'. So, Freedom is in
fact free as birth is free.

the bumper sticker implies that only government or to be soppy only the
military can provide freedom. So ... taxes.
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Re: Freedom isn't free         


Author: BretCahill
Date: Jun 24, 2008 07:26

>> That's the what the bumper sticker on the car in the parking lot said .
>> . .
>> If you believe that, then are you saying we are born into slavery?
> This crap is unAmerican or violates Americanism which states that
> 'liberty', which is quite different than the babble-speak 'freedom',
> liberty is given to each by 'nature and nature's god'.

The bumper sticker is correct on its face.

The problem is that it is often misinterpreted.

Many have been led to believe that freedom only comes out of a barrel
of a gun and that the most important or only cost to pay for freedom
is stacking up the bodies of your own countrymen.

That interpretation, constantly promoted by Hollywood (Saving Private
Ryan) and the jingoistic corp. media (The Greatest Generation), is
just plain ignorant and has absolutely nothing to do with what made
America great in the first place.
> So, Freedom is in
> fact free as birth is free.

Freedom, a human construct, increases with taxation.
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Re: Freedom isn't free         


Author: ta
Date: Jun 24, 2008 09:31

On Jun 24, 6:08 am, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:19:07 -0700, ta wrote:
>> That's the what the bumper sticker on the car in the parking lot said .
>> . .
>
>> If you believe that, then are you saying we are born into slavery?
>
> This crap is unAmerican or violates Americanism which states that
> 'liberty', which is quite different than the babble-speak 'freedom',
> liberty is given to each by 'nature and nature's god'. So, Freedom is in
> fact free as birth is free.
>
> the bumper sticker implies that only government or to be soppy only the
> military can provide freedom. So ... taxes.

You must be one of them thar terrorists.
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Re: Freedom isn't free         


Author: Wordsmith
Date: Jun 24, 2008 12:43

On Jun 23, 10:19 am, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 11:57 am, "Jack" yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "ta" nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>
>>news:72d4ff60-d53f-4625-a570-062df7ae1356@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>>> That's the what the bumper sticker on the car in the parking lot
>>> said . . .
>
>>> If you believe that, then are you saying we are born into slavery?
>
>> No.  I had nothing to do with that bumper sticker.
>
> Are you sure? This truck had also had an NRA sticker, gun rack, and a
> vanity plate (Virgina) that read: "JACK".

What...no Confederate flag??!!?

W ; )
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