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Author: Jong Kim
Date: Nov 13, 2006 08:19

"RetroProphet" newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:ej2e110k7a@drn.newsguy.com...
>
>>>>Professors Wheeler and Smith,
>>>>
>>>>The following is Art Bulla's inspired refutation of Evolution,
>>>> including a statistical analysis,
>>>>I am about to post on various Usenet groups.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Originally emailed to:
>>>>John Wheeler, Professor Emeritus of Physics at Princeton University
>>>>matrhorn at princeton dot edu
>>>>
>>>>Quentin Smith, Professor of Philosophy at Western Michigan University
>>>>quentin dot smith at wmich dot edu
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Jong Kim
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't forget to share Professor Wheeler's analysis with us.
>>

26 Therefore, I will proceed to do a marvelous work among this people, yea,
a marvelous work and a wonder, for the wisdom of their wise and learned
shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent shall be hid.

(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 27:26)
>>Neither Dr. Wheeler nor Dr. Smith has so far replied to me.
>
>
> Not surprising -- such amateurish pseudo-science holds
> no interest as it only requires a modest understanding
> to discard it as hopelessly flawed.
>

You can laugh about it all you want, but fallen spirits (devils) tried to
possess my body at least twice after initially writing Quentin Smith some
weeks ago, each instance within a few hours of emailing him.
I was actually attacked more than twice, but now I don't have
a clear recollection of whether it was three or four times.

I warn everybody that devils (I have seen them on several occasions) have
great power over the children of men, except the Lord God of Israel be with
them. It doesn't matter if I am scorned by you and your ilk. I've done
what I'm supposed to do, that the wicked may not have any excuse.
>
>>
>>> You should also send him some of the rebuttals to this piece
>>> that I have posted. You up for it?
>>>
>>
>>It is nothing else but words, which rather sound than signify anything,
>>saith Sir Francis 'shakespeare' Bacon.
>>
>>If I did, I feel confident that Dr. Wheeler would feel sympathy
>>for your position on this matter, while knowing deep down inside that
>>he and you and Dr. Smith are redtrolls...
>
> There is no "sympathy" in genuine science.
> He would concur with my analysis because it is correct,
> and that is a very different thing.
>
> Opining that "deep down" he "knows" I am wrong is
> religious mumbo-jumbo to clumsily cover that you
> can do no better at stating your case, or more importantly,
> rebutting directly specific objections to it -- why else
> do you always start again at the same initial point,
> as if repeating it might make it stick. This is blind
> faith in religious hunch -- not scientific discourse.
>

6 They return at evening: they make a noise like a dog, and go round about
the city.

7 Behold, they belch out with their mouth: swords [are] in their lips: for
who, [say they], doth hear?

8 But thou, O LORD, shalt laugh at them; thou shalt have all the heathen in
derision.

(Old Testament | Psalms 59:6 - 8)

Being desirous of redtroll orgasm,
You again uttered dark sarcasm.

Francis Bacon:

It is nothing else but words, which rather sound than signify anything.

William Shakespeare:

And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

See http://www.sirbacon.org

http://www.answers.com/topic/james-watson
Watson is an outspoken atheist, known for his frank opinions on politics,
religion, and the role of science in society. He has been considered to hold
a number of controversial views.

He is for instance a strong proponent of genetically modified crops, holding
that the benefits far outweigh any plausible environmental dangers, and that
many of the arguments against GM crops are unscientific or irrational. His
views on these matters are covered in some depth in his book DNA: The Secret
of Life (2003), particularly in chapter 6.

He has also repeatedly supported genetic screening and genetic engineering
in public lectures and interviews, arguing for instance that the "really
stupid" bottom 10%% of people should be aborted before birth; that all girls
should be genetically engineered to be pretty [1] and has been quoted in The
Sunday Telegraph as stating "that if the gene (for homosexuality) were
discovered and a woman decided not to give birth to a child that may have a
tendency to become homosexual, she should be able to abort the fetus." [2]
The biologist Richard Dawkins wrote a letter to The Independent claiming
that Watson's position was misrepresented by The Sunday Telegraph article
and that Watson also considered the possibility of having a heterosexual
child to be a valid reason for abortion. [3]

According to James Watson at the 2003 conference: DNA: "50 years of the
Double Helix" held in Cambridge (England) in 2003 : (quote) "Now perhaps
it's a pretty well kept secret that one of the most uninspiring acts of
Cambridge University over this past century was to turn down Francis Crick
when he applied to be the Professor of Genetics, in 1958. Now there may have
been a series of arguments, which lead them to reject Francis. But it really
was stupid. It was really saying, don't push us to the frontier. That's what
it was saying." (conference transcript)

In his Interviews with BBC's Horizon "DNA", Watson argues that we, as humans
have to take responsibility toward our posterity by selecting and caring
about or genes as a logical result due to the ceasing of "natural selection"
in the human world.

Watson also had quite a few disagrements with Craig Venter regarding his use
of EST fragments while Venter worked at NIH. Venter went on to found Celera
genomics and continued his feud with Watson through the privately funded
venture. Watson was even quoted as calling Venter Hitler (The Genome War, J.
Shreeve)
***

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4080822.stm
Last Updated: Monday, 13 June 2005, 13:35 GMT 14:35 UK

Nazi past haunts 'Aryan' children

By Kate Bissell
All Out Productions for BBC Radio 4

Between 1935 and 1945, around 10,000 German children and an estimated 9,000
Norwegian children with "Aryan" characteristics of blond hair and blue eyes
were born into a Nazi-run programme called "Lebensborn" or "Fountain of
Life".

It was part of the Nazis' plan to create a "master race". Sixty years later,
many are still living with the psychological scars, as the BBC Radio 4
documentary "Fountain of Life", discovered.

"My uncle always called me an 'SS bastard' and I did not understand why,"
says Gisela Heidenreich from Munich.

"I always remember feeling that there was something wrong with me. I felt
guilty, but no one would explain that I was a Lebensborn child."

Gisela Heidenreich was born out of an affair with an SS commander. Her
mother also worked as a secretary for Lebensborn.

Heinrich Himmler, leader of Hitler's SS encouraged affairs between SS
soldiers and "Aryan" women, to increase the stock of "racially valuable"
Germans in response to falling birth rates.

At a time in Germany when illegitimate children were a social taboo, Himmler
formed 10 Lebensborn homes in Germany and nine in occupied Norway, to
provide comfortable and safe accommodation for the unmarried pregnant women.

Many Lebensborn homes were set up in houses confiscated from Jewish families
by the Nazis or in former homes for the elderly or mentally handicapped.

While some mothers kept their babies others left them in the care of
Lebensborn, while a "good" German family was found to adopt the child.

Gisela has twice been back to the former Lebensborn home where her mother
worked. I joined her on her second visit to Steinhoering. An hour form
Munich, Steinhoering sits in rolling fields with the snow-capped peaks of
the Alps in the distance. At Steinhoering, her mother played a key role
signing babies off for "adoption".

'Victim of Hitler'

The former home's gates, with the Nazis SS symbol clearly visible, are still
propped up against a stable. The gates, along with a Nazi statue of an
"Aryan" mother breastfeeding her baby, are a reminder of the home's dark
past.

Gisela is touched though to find that the home is now a centre for the
disabled.

"It is so moving to see these happy children playing on swings," she says.
"They would not have lived during the Third Reich, because of Hitler's crazy
racial policy."

Gisela says she has found evidence in Lebensborn records to suggest that
disabled children born into the programme were killed or sent to
concentration camps.

Maria Dorr, another Lebensborn child - her mother Norwegian and father a
soldier in the German Army - now lives outside Frankfurt in Germany. Maria
considers herself to be a victim of Hitler.

As a baby she was transported from Norway to the Koren Salis Lebensborn home
near Leipzig, before being adopted by a German family.

Holding back tears, Maria relays the moment she realised she was adopted.

"I was a schoolgirl when a woman came up to me and told me I was not German.
So I started to secretly look through my adopted mother's things, but it was
not until I was an adult that I found my Lebensborn file and discovered the
real truth.

"I can't help feeling like a Lebensborn child. I feel damaged and the
disturbance it has caused me has damaged my life."

'No Nazi'

In a small flat half an hour from Leipzig, Maria Heinich looks proudly
through her photo album which dates back to 1942, when she worked as a
secretary at Koren Salis Lebensborn home.

Maria Heinich does not remember Maria Dorr, but she has kept in touch with
some of the other Lebensborn children she met at the home.

Looking at me with her steely eyes, Maria is adamant that although she
worked at the home she was not a Nazi.

"I was young then, I did not think it was alright what we did, but I really
enjoyed my work there. I really did not have anything to do with it proper,
I was just a little secretary, I did not have any connection to the
Lebensborn headquarters in Munich."

Gisela Heidenreich explains that many women who worked for Lebensborn,
including her own mother, face difficulties in accepting the role, however
small they played, in supporting Hitler's racial policy.

The BBC also discovered that in 1943 Heinrich Himmler ordered children
meeting racial "qualification" to be abducted from homes and streets in
conquered east European countries. Those stolen children were taken to
Lebensborn homes to be "Germanised" before adoption.

Reunions

In 1945, Gitta Sereny joined the United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation
Administration. It was her job to find and transport stolen children back to
their homeland.

"I took several truckloads of children back to Poland. It was so touching to
see their parents on the platforms when the train arrived. Many of them had
said goodbye to babies but they never failed to recognise their children."

However, Ingrid Von Oelhalfen, who was eight months old when she was stolen
from Slovenia and taken to Germany, was not returned after the war.

Tears stream down her face as she explains the devastating effect Lebensborn
has had on her life. "I have never been loved," she says.

Fountain of Life was broadcast on BBC Radio 4 FM at 2000 BST on 13 June
2005.
***

http://www.knittingcircle.org.uk/pressgene.html
A touch of genius? in Terry Sanderson's mediawatch column in Gay Times,
April,1997, issue 223, pages 61-2. A discussion of the reporting of the
views of James Watson and others about the possibility that women who find
themselves pregnant with a potentially homosexual child might be able to
abort the foetus. "The Sunday Telegraph's interview quoted Professor Watson
as saying: 'If you could find the gene which determines sexuality, and a
woman decides she doesn't want a homosexual child, well, let her [terminate
the pregnancy]'." "The famous biologist Richard Dawkins (author of the
selfish gene) wrote to The Independent that Dr Watson was being
misrepresented: 'A woman might passionately desire a homosexual child and
elect to abort a foetus with heterosexual genes. Indeed, I have not the
slightest doubt that Dr Watson would be happy to add heterosexuality to his
hypothetical reasons for aborting'."

Sir Francis 'shakespeare' Bacon (New Atlantis):

"We have also, as you must think, novices and apprentices, that the
succession of the former employed men do not fail; besides a great number of
servants and attendants, men and women. And this we do also: we have
consultations, which of the inventions and experiences which we have
discovered shall be published, and which not; and take all an oath of
secrecy for the concealing of those which we think fit to keep secret;
though some of those we do reveal sometime to the State, and some not.

"For our ordinances and rites we have two very long and fair galleries. In
one of these we place patterns and samples of all manner of the more rare
and excellent inventions; in the other we place the statues of all principal
inventors. There we have the statue of your Columbus, that discovered the
West Indies, also the inventor of ships, your monk that was the inventor of
ordnance and of gunpowder, the inventor of music, the inventor of letters,
the inventor of printing, the inventor of observations of astronomy, the
inventor of works in metal, the inventor of glass, the inventor of silk of
the worm, the inventor of wine, the inventor of corn and bread, the inventor
of sugars; and all these by more certain tradition than you have. Then we
have divers inventors of our own, of excellent works; which, since you have
not seen it were too long to make descriptions of them; and besides, in the
right understanding of those descriptions you might easily err. For upon
every invention of value we erect a statue to the inventor, and give him a
liberal and honorable reward. These statues are some of brass, some of
marble and touchstone, some of cedar and other special woods gilt and
adorned; some of iron, some of silver, some of gold.

"We have certain hymns and services, which we say daily, of laud and thanks
to God for His marvellous works. And forms of prayers, imploring His aid and
blessing for the illumination of our labors; and turning them into good and
holy uses.

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/about/
This much seems clear: Technology will be central to the future of American
life and American politics. It will create new political divides and new
moral quandaries. It will force liberals and conservatives, Republicans and
Democrats, to rethink their guiding principles and political vision. The New
Atlantis hopes to be at the center of redefining politics for the
technological age-by helping scientists, policymakers, and citizens deal
more wisely and more creatively with the promise and perils of our nation's
future.

The New Atlantis (1627) was the title Francis Bacon selected for his fable
of a society living with the benefits and challenges of advanced science
and technology. Bacon, a founder and champion of modern science,
sought not only to highlight the potential of technology to improve human
life,
but also to foresee some of the social, moral, and political difficulties
that confront a society shaped by the great scientific enterprise. His book
offers no obvious answers; perhaps it seduces more than it warns.
But the tale also hints at some of the dilemmas that arise with the ability
to remake and reconfigure the natural world: governing science, so that
it might flourish freely without destroying or dehumanizing us, and
understanding the effect of technology on human life, human aspiration,
and the human good. To a great extent, we live in the world Bacon
imagined, and now we must find a way to live well with both its burdens
and its blessings. This very challenge, which now confronts our own
society most forcefully, is the focus of this journal.

Pink Floyd:

No dark sarcasm in the classroom.

The Trolling Stones:

Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long years
Stole many a man's soul and faith

And I was 'round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game
***

Yea, the Yoke of Mengele.

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man
worship the beast and his image, and receive [his] mark in his forehead, or
in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out
without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented
with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the
presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they
have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and
whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

(New Testament | Revelation 14:9 - 11)

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