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Feminism Proven False         


Author: Topaz
Date: Nov 20, 2006 16:52

Here are some quotes from Brain Sex, the Real Difference between men
and women
By Anne Moir And David Jessel

They are equal only in their common membership of the species,
humankind. To maintain that they are the same in aptitude, skill or
behavior is to build a society based on a biological and scientific
lie.

The sexes are different because their brains are different. The brain,
the chief administrative and emotional organ of life, is differently
constructed in men and in women; it processes information in a
different way, which results in different perceptions, priorities and
behavior.
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Re: Feminism Proven False         


Author: Limited Warranty
Date: Nov 20, 2006 19:14

Topaz wrote: Anne Moir And David Jessel wrote:
> Until recently, behavior differences between the sexes have been
> explained away by social conditioning - the expectations of parents,
> whose own attitudes, in turn, reflect the expectations of society;
> little boys are told that they shouldn't cry, and that the way to the
> top depends on masculine assertion and aggression. Scant attention was
> paid to the biological view that we may be what we are because of the
> way we are made. Today, there is too much new biological evidence for
> the sociological argument to prevail.

Oh, please. All those politico-social generations through the centuries
that were influenced by the early empiricists couldn't be wrong. The
mind enters the world as a Blank Slate, totally dependent upon
experiential input to make us what we are! There are no innate
templates already in place for conditioning human behavior and
organizing infomation. That's just a bunch of Kantian descended baloney
that the geneticists and biologists have thinly papered over with their
bogus research!

Wink Wink
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Re: Feminism Proven False         


Author: Sir Frederick
Date: Nov 20, 2006 19:24

On 20 Nov 2006 19:14:36 -0800, "Limited Warranty" yahoo.com> wrote:
>Topaz wrote: Anne Moir And David Jessel wrote:
>
>> Until recently, behavior differences between the sexes have been
>> explained away by social conditioning - the expectations of parents,
>> whose own...
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Re: Feminism Proven False         


Author: Daniel T.
Date: Nov 21, 2006 07:20

Topaz hotmail.com> wrote:
> The sexes are different because their brains are different. The brain,
> the chief administrative and emotional organ of life, is differently
> constructed in men and in women; it processes information in a
> different way, which results in different perceptions, priorities and
> behavior.

Let's say I agree 100%% with the book in question (I think I will, but I
haven't read it yet.) Does that, in any way, mean that law should allow
either sex privileges the other doesn't have?
> It cannot be stressed often enough that this book concerns itself
> with the average man and the average woman.

Since the law doesn't apply simply to average men and women, but to
*all* men and women, it seems to me that the law must take that into
account.

The average man may very well be better than the average woman at
certain tasks, (and I'm sure the reverse is also true,) but some women
may still be better than most men at that very task. Should the law
preclude them from doing such tasks? I think not.
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Re: Feminism Proven False         


Author: AlanS
Date: Nov 21, 2006 07:53

"Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote:
>The average man may very well be better than the average woman at
>certain tasks, (and I'm sure the reverse is also true,) but some women
>may still be better than most men at that very task. Should the law
>preclude them from doing such tasks? I think not.

No, the law shouldn't discriminate, but neither should it attempt to
perfectly homogenize. For instance, instead of, say, having equal
quotas for male and female nurses or architects, we should let the
supply and demand and quality of applicants dictate the result. If
males are better at architecture, I don't see a problem with having a
disproportionate number of them in that field. Gender should not in
general be a factor in admittance, employement... etc. Discuss amongst
yourselves.
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Author: Topaz
Date: Nov 21, 2006 15:20

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:20:05 GMT, "Daniel T." earthlink.net>
wrote:
>
>Let's say I agree 100%% with the book in question (I think I will, but I
>haven't read it yet.) Does that, in any way, mean that law should allow
>either sex privileges the other doesn't have?

Yes. We should not have female soldiers, firemen etc. We should make
"mother" a real job with a real paycheck.
>
>Since the law doesn't apply simply to average men and women, but to
>*all* men and women, it seems to me that the law must take that into
>account.

The law should be trying to make this more of a John Wayne type
country. The fags and the dykes should be frowned upon.
>
>The average man may very well be better than the average woman at
>certain tasks, (and I'm sure the reverse is also true,) but some women
>may still be better than most men at that very task. Should the law
>preclude them from doing such tasks? I think not.
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Re: Feminism Proven False         


Author: Wanker
Date: Nov 23, 2006 08:38

Topaz wrote:
> Here are some quotes from Brain Sex, the Real Difference between men
> and women

Is 'Brain Sex' what happened to you when you were small?
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Re: Feminism Proven False         


Author: Wanker
Date: Nov 24, 2006 05:21

AlanS wrote:
> "Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>But isn't that the problem? In many fields the quality of applicants
>>doesn't dictate the result.
>
> On average, they do. The free market will gravitate towards the better
> choice for employers.

Not necessarily. The free market will often favour the choice employers
feel more comfortable with and that's a different matter entirely. Just
because the market's free from economic bias doesn't mean it's free
from social bias.
>>In such an environment, a non-popular
>>generded person must be vastly superior in the field to get any
>>consideration at all.
>
> You cannot make rules based on exceptions.

But you can make exceptions to rules, and as the exceptions grow the
rule changes until the exception becomes rule, and rule exception.
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Re: Feminism Proven False         


Author: galathaea
Date: Nov 24, 2006 09:00

AlanS wrote:
> "Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote:
>>AlanS nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> "Daniel T." earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>> This may come as a sexist remark, certainly not intended so, but you
>>> could easily replace all female engineers of the last century, say,
>>> male nurses from the same period (trained in engineering instead,
>>> obviously), and hardly skip a beat.
>
>>Without evidence, that is indeed a sexist remark.
>
> It's from personal experience. I don't know of many female engineers
> and no exceptional ones.

women select themselves out of the
alpha competition of engineering and the sciences

it is because
they cannot often handle the emotional strain
of the offense and offal hurled them
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Re: Feminism Proven False         


Author: galathaea
Date: Nov 24, 2006 09:06

Topaz wrote:
> Here are some quotes from Brain Sex, the Real Difference between men
> and women
> By Anne Moir And David Jessel
>
> They are equal only in their common membership of the species,
> humankind. To maintain that they are the same in aptitude, skill or
> behavior is to build a society based on a biological and scientific
> lie.
>
> The sexes are different because their brains are different. The brain,
> the chief administrative and emotional organ of life, is differently
> constructed in men and in women; it processes information in a
> different way, which results in different perceptions, priorities and
> behavior.
>
> Until recently, behavior differences between the sexes have been
> explained away by social conditioning - the expectations of parents,
> whose own attitudes, in turn, reflect the expectations of society;
> little boys are told that they shouldn't cry, and that the way to the ...
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