>As a public service, I am providing a clear and simple definition of
>Fascism:
>
>Fascism = Conservatism + Limited Socialism.
>
>I am providing this definition in an effort to deal with the
>disinformation campaign currently underway by the right wing in the
>U.S. to equate all forms of government of any type with Fascism. Yes
>the Nazis were "National Socialists". They were using state power to
>reiniforce traditional social values such as Nationalism, the Church
>and Capitalist Power. They were not "Socialists" in the traditional
>sense of the term, who use state power to overturn conventional social
>structures in favor of better one.

> On Wed, 14 May 2008 07:24:29 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus
>

>> Indeed, traditional American Conservatives oppose much of
>>the Bush agenda in the exactly the same way and for the same reasons

>
> give the 'reasons' you believe are involved....

>On May 14, 10:41 am, abelard abelard.org> wrote:

>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 07:24:29 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus

>>> Indeed, traditional American Conservatives oppose much of
>>>the Bush agenda in the exactly the same way and for the same reasons

>>
>> give the 'reasons' you believe are involved....

>I think this is the critical issue here. American Conservatives are
>very suspicious of Bush and Cheney's efforts to expand surveillance
>powers of the government, suspend habeus corpus and other normal civil
>liberties for "terrorists" -- whoever those people might be -- and
>spend unlimited amounts of government money on "wars" against
>"terrorists". In other words, traditional American Conservatives
>don't like the effort to fuse socialistic government power with an
>effort to prop up the current system against all change: "change" is,
>in Bush/Cheney thinking, "terroristic".

> On Wed, 14 May 2008 09:02:21 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus
>
>
>
>
>
> yahoo.com> wrote:

>>On May 14, 10:41 am, abelard abelard.org> wrote:

>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 07:24:29 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus

>>>> Indeed, traditional American Conservatives oppose much of
>>>>the Bush agenda in the exactly the same way and for the same reasons

>

>>> give the 'reasons' you believe are involved....

>>I think this is the critical issue here.  American Conservatives are
>>very suspicious of Bush and Cheney's efforts to expand surveillance
>>powers of the government, suspend habeus corpus and other normal civil
>>liberties for "terrorists"  -- whoever those people might be -- and
>>spend unlimited amounts of government money on "wars" against
>>"terrorists".  In other words, traditional American Conservatives ...

>On May 14, 11:10 am, abelard abelard.org> wrote:

>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 09:02:21 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>On May 14, 10:41 am, abelard

> On Wed, 14 May 2008 07:24:29 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus
> yahoo.com> wrote:
>

>>As a public service, I am providing a clear and simple definition of
>>Fascism:
>>
>>Fascism = Conservatism + Limited Socialism.
>>
>>I am providing this definition in an effort to deal with the
>>disinformation campaign currently underway by the right wing in the
>>U.S. to equate all forms of government of any type with Fascism. Yes
>>the Nazis were "National Socialists". They were using state power to
>>reiniforce traditional social values such as Nationalism, the Church
>>and Capitalist Power. They were not "Socialists" in the traditional
>>sense of the term, who use state power to overturn conventional social
>>structures in favor of better one.

>
> don't be daft.... ...

>"abelard" abelard.org> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 07:24:29 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus
>> yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>...

> On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:59:18 GMT, "Nebuchadnezzar II"
> microsoft.com> wrote:
>

>>"abelard" abelard.org> wrote in message
>>news:e71m2411n73djum38qetgf26mqjf2o64uv@4ax.com...

>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 07:24:29 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus
>>> yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>

>>>>As a public service, I am providing a clear and simple definition of
>>>>Fascism:
>>>>
>>>>Fascism = Conservatism + Limited Socialism.
>>>>
>>>>I am providing this definition in an effort to deal with the
>>>>disinformation campaign currently underway by the right wing in the
>>>>U.S. to equate all forms of government of any type with Fascism. Yes
>>>>the Nazis were "National Socialists". They were using state power to
>>>>reiniforce traditional social values such as Nationalism, the Church ...

>"abelard" abelard.org> wrote in message
>news:sj6m241l0ijc14ru43jpr3f6il7c5v6krc@4ax.com...

>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 16:59:18 GMT, "Nebuchadnezzar II"
>> microsoft.com> wrote...