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Author: C3C3 Date: Aug 13, 2008 21:25
Have you ever heard the phrase "Life is an existential Hell." I
believe I read in Newsweek that upwards of 70%% of college students
hold that as their philosophical outlook on life. What does that
phrase mean?
I've always held existentialism to mean that you doubt the existence
of other people, kind of like the movie the Matrix where others don't
exist and they're just hallucinogenic images delivered to brains...
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Aug 13, 2008 21:51
On Aug 14, 12:25Â am, C3 aol.com> wrote:
> Have you ever heard the phrase "Life is an existential Hell." I
> believe I read in Newsweek that upwards of 70%% of college students
> hold that as their philosophical outlook on life. Â What does that
> phrase mean?
>
> I've always held existentialism to mean that you doubt the existence
> of other people, kind of like the movie the Matrix where others don't
> exist and they're just hallucinogenic images delivered to brains in
> vats. Â For example, do you think I exist, as a fellow human with a
> body and a soul? Â I do, however, existentialism can extend to one's
> ownself also wherein we doubt our own existence and not only others'.
> I personally believe this is more likely to happen to Christians,
> particularly Catholiics, because one of the tenets of Christianity can
> be the denial of self. Â Comments like "There's no one in the room" (as
> opposed to there's no one else in the room) suggest or imply
> existentialist philosophy directed toward oneself. Â Descartes trudged
> through existentialism and came to the conclusion "I think, therefore
> I am." Â Because he thinks, he concludes he exists. Â From this came
> other fundamental truths such as there is a God and God is not a ...
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Aug 13, 2008 22:40
On Aug 13, 9:25 pm, C3 aol.com> wrote:
> Have you ever heard the phrase "Life is an existential Hell." I
> believe I read in Newsweek that upwards of 70%% of college students
> hold that as their philosophical outlook on life. What does that
> phrase mean?
>
> I've always held existentialism to mean that you doubt the existence
> of other people, kind of like the movie the Matrix where others don't
> exist and they're just hallucinogenic images delivered to brains in
> vats. For example, do you think I exist, as a fellow human with a
> body and a soul? I do, however, existentialism can extend to one's
> ownself also wherein we doubt our own existence and not only others'.
> I personally believe this is more likely to happen to Christians,
> particularly Catholiics, because one of the tenets of Christianity can
> be the denial of self. Comments like "There's no one in the room" (as
> opposed to there's no one else in the room) suggest or imply
> existentialist philosophy directed toward oneself. Descartes trudged
> through existentialism and came to the conclusion "I think, therefore
> I am." Because he thinks, he concludes he exists. From this came
> other fundamental truths such as there is a God and God is not a ...
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Author: CormaghCormagh Date: Aug 13, 2008 22:56
On Aug 13, 9:25Â pm, C3 aol.com> wrote:
> Have you ever heard the phrase "Life is an existential Hell." I
> believe I read in Newsweek that upwards of 70%% of college students
> hold that as their philosophical outlook on life. Â What does that
> phrase mean?
>
> I've always held existentialism to mean that you doubt the existence
> of other people, kind of like the movie the Matrix where others don't
> exist and they're just hallucinogenic images delivered to brains in
> vats. Â For example, do you think I exist, as a fellow human with a
> body and a soul? Â I do, however, existentialism can extend to one's
> ownself also wherein we doubt our own existence and not only others'.
> I personally believe this is more likely to happen to Christians,
> particularly Catholiics, because one of the tenets of Christianity can
> be the denial of self. Â Comments like "There's no one in the room" (as
> opposed to there's no one else in the room) suggest or imply
> existentialist philosophy directed toward oneself. Â Descartes trudged
> through existentialism and came to the conclusion "I think, therefore
> I am." Â Because he thinks, he concludes he exists. Â From this came
> other fundamental truths such as there is a God and God is not a ...
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Aug 13, 2008 22:57
On Aug 14, 2:25Â pm, C3 aol.com> wrote:
> Have you ever heard the phrase "Life is an existential Hell." I
> believe I read in Newsweek that upwards of 70%% of college students
> hold that as their philosophical outlook on life. Â What does that
> phrase mean?
>
> I've always held existentialism to mean that you doubt the existence
> of other people, kind of like the movie the Matrix where others don't
> exist and they're just hallucinogenic images delivered to brains in
> vats. Â For example, do you think I exist, as a fellow human with a
> body and a soul? Â I do, however, existentialism can extend to one's
> ownself also wherein we doubt our own existence and not only others'.
> I personally believe this is more likely to happen to Christians,
> particularly Catholiics, because one of the tenets of Christianity can
> be the denial of self. Â Comments like "There's no one in the room" (as
> opposed to there's no one else in the room) suggest or imply
> existentialist philosophy directed toward oneself. Â Descartes trudged
> through existentialism and came to the conclusion "I think, therefore
> I am." Â Because he thinks, he concludes he exists. Â From this came
> other fundamental truths such as there is a God and God is not a ...
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Author: toolytooly Date: Aug 15, 2008 16:44
> Have you ever heard the phrase "Life is an existential Hell." I
> believe I read in Newsweek that upwards of 70%% of college students
> hold that as their philosophical outlook on life. What does that
> phrase mean?
>
> I've always held existentialism to mean that you doubt the existence
> of other people, kind of like the movie the Matrix where others don't
> exist and they're just hallucinogenic images delivered to brains in
> vats. For example, do you think I exist, as a fellow human with a
> body and a soul? I do, however, existentialism can extend to one's
> ownself also wherein we doubt our own existence and not only others'.
> I personally believe this is more likely to happen to Christians,
> particularly Catholiics, because one of the tenets of Christianity can
> be the denial of self. Comments like "There's no one in the room" (as
> opposed to there's no one else in the room) suggest or imply
> existentialist philosophy directed toward oneself. Descartes trudged
> through existentialism and came to the conclusion "I think, therefore
> I am." Because he thinks, he concludes he exists. From this came ...
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Author: toolytooly Date: Aug 15, 2008 17:06
>
> Even quicker responses than turtoni's...
> Isn't existentialism the tenet that truth is a function of existing [short
> and sweet].
>
>
Correction here...misleading about 'truth'. More, 'what truth we can
ascertain is a function of existing'...which goes on to suggest that we
cannot know anything outside our existence. Some might intrepret this as
suggesting we cannot know an objective 'truth' at all. That's the more
pessimistic intrepretation IMHO.
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Aug 15, 2008 18:40
On Aug 16, 10:06Â am, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> Even quicker responses than turtoni's...
>> Isn't existentialism the tenet that truth is a function of existing [short
>> and sweet].
>
> Correction here...misleading about 'truth'. Â Â More, 'what truth we can
> ascertain is a function of existing'...which goes on to suggest that we
> cannot know anything outside our existence. Â Some might intrepret this as
> suggesting we cannot know an objective 'truth' at all. Â That's the more
> pessimistic intrepretation IMHO.
Quite simple really. Think of objective truth as 'shared truth'. We
both hear Mozart in a unique way, beyond the realm or necessity for
proof, but we can still enjoy the company of like minded people.
BOfL
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Aug 16, 2008 00:40
On Aug 15, 7:44Â pm, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> Have you ever heard the phrase "Life is an existential Hell." I
>> believe I read in Newsweek that upwards of 70%% of college students
>> hold that as their philosophical outlook on life. Â What does that
>> phrase mean?
>
>> I've always held existentialism to mean that you doubt the existence
>> of other people, kind of like the movie the Matrix where others don't
>> exist and they're just hallucinogenic images delivered to brains in
>> vats. Â For example, do you think I exist, as a fellow human with a
>> body and a soul? Â I do, however, existentialism can extend to one's
>> ownself also wherein we doubt our own existence and not only others'. ...
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