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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: May 10, 2008 08:18
"Theologians like Paul Tillich and psychologists like Sigmund Freud have
characterized anxiety as the reaction to what Tillich called, "The trauma of
nonbeing." That is, the human comes to realize that there is a point at
which he or she might cease to be (die), and their encounter with reality
becomes characterized by anxiety. Religion, according to both Tillich and
Freud, then becomes a carefully crafted coping mechanism in response to this
anxiety since they redefine death as the end of only the corporal part of
human personal existence, assuming an immortal soul. What then becomes of
this soul and through what criteria is the cardinal difference of various
religious faiths.
Philosophical ruminations are a part of this condition, and this is part of
obsessive-compulsive disorder. They are typically about sex and religion or
death. However, truly rational philosophical thinking is usually driven by a
desire for a rational understanding of Ultimate Reality, rather than a
desire to avoid death.
According to Viktor Frankl, author of Man's Search for Meaning, when faced
with extreme mortal dangers the very basic of all human wishes is to find a
meaning of life to combat this "trauma of nonbeing" as death is near and to
succumb to it (even by suicide) seems like a way out.
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: May 10, 2008 08:57
On Sat, 10 May 2008 11:18:46 -0400, "turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote:
>"Theologians like Paul Tillich and psychologists like Sigmund Freud have
>characterized anxiety as the reaction to what Tillich called, "The trauma of
>nonbeing." That is, the human comes to realize...
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: May 10, 2008 11:52
"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:d2hb245k9coi3piqba8aski70brdh1lvfl@4ax.com...> On Sat, 10 May 2008 11:18:46 -0400, "turtoni" fastmail.net>
> wrote:
>>>"Theologians like Paul Tillich and psychologists like Sigmund Freud have
>>characterized anxiety as the reaction to what Tillich called, "The trauma
>>of
>>nonbeing." That is, the human comes to realize that there is a point at
>>which he or she might cease to be (die), and their encounter with reality
>>becomes characterized by anxiety. Religion, according to both Tillich and
>>Freud, then becomes a carefully crafted coping mechanism in response to
>>this
>>anxiety since they redefine death as the end of only the corporal part of
>>human personal existence, assuming an immortal soul. What then becomes of
>>this soul and through what criteria is the cardinal difference of various
>>religious faiths.
>>
>>Philosophical ruminations are a part of this condition, and this is part
>>of ...
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: May 10, 2008 13:17
On Sat, 10 May 2008 14:52:51 -0400, "turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote:
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>"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
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>> "Being" a finite and fully physical automaton zombie
>> with well practiced fantasies of personification,
>> I find the best dealing with anxiety (existential...
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Author: toolytooly Date: May 10, 2008 17:24
"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:chvb24tus1rpi1vn76i4104sh6vv3ul5mm@4ax.com...> On Sat, 10 May 2008 14:52:51 -0400, "turtoni" fastmail.net>
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>>"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
>>news:d2hb245k9coi3piqba8aski70brdh1lvfl@4ax.com...>
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>>> "Being" a finite and fully physical automaton zombie
>>> with well practiced fantasies of personification,
>>> I find the best dealing with anxiety (existential or otherwise)
>>> is caffeine. An Americano espresso with a heaping teaspoon
>>> of good Penzy's cocoa powder four times a day keeps the
>>> "cobblies" away. "Better living through chemistry."
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: May 10, 2008 18:05
"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:chvb24tus1rpi1vn76i4104sh6vv3ul5mm@4ax.com...> On Sat, 10 May 2008 14:52:51 -0400, "turtoni" fastmail.net>
> wrote:
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>>"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
>>news:d2hb245k9coi3piqba8aski70brdh1lvfl@4ax.com...>
>>>
>>> "Being" a finite and fully physical automaton zombie
>>> with well practiced fantasies of personification,
>>> I find the best dealing with anxiety (existential or otherwise)
>>> is caffeine. An Americano espresso with a heaping teaspoon
>>> of good Penzy's cocoa powder four times a day keeps the
>>> "cobblies" away. "Better living through chemistry."
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: May 10, 2008 19:04
On Sat, 10 May 2008 21:05:21 -0400, "turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote:
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>news:chvb24tus1rpi1vn76i4104sh6vv3ul5mm@4ax.com...>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 14:52:51 -0400, "turtoni" fastmail.net>
>> wrote:
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: May 10, 2008 19:42
"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
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>>"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
>>news:chvb24tus1rpi1vn76i4104sh6vv3ul5mm@4ax.com...>>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 14:52:51 -0400, "turtoni" fastmail.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:d2hb245k9coi3piqba8aski70brdh1lvfl@4ax.com...>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Being" a finite and fully physical automaton zombie
>>>>> with well practiced fantasies of personification, ...
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: May 10, 2008 20:12
On Sat, 10 May 2008 22:42:22 -0400, "turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote:
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>"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
>news:eekc24lh59q03ka3vvcbpuqt1qol3qqefi@4ax.com...>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 21:05:21 -0400, "turtoni" fastmail.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
>>>news:chvb24tus1rpi1vn76i4104sh6vv3ul5mm@4ax.com...>>>>
>>>> The main point is that "anxiety" being a quale on
>>>> brain state, it is influenced by modifying that brain
>>>> state. In my case in a legal and socially acceptable
>>>> physical way. Some...
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: May 10, 2008 20:18
"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:b8oc24lno44s38o2oqqdetchrdsp9m17qn@4ax.com...> On Sat, 10 May 2008 22:42:22 -0400, "turtoni" fastmail.net>
> wrote:
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>>"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
>>news:eekc24lh59q03ka3vvcbpuqt1qol3qqefi@4ax.com...>>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 21:05:21 -0400, "turtoni" fastmail.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:chvb24tus1rpi1vn76i4104sh6vv3ul5mm@4ax.com...>
>>>>>
>>>>> The main point is that "anxiety" being a quale on
>>>>> brain state, it is influenced by modifying that brain
>>>>> state. In my case in a legal and socially acceptable
>>>>> physical way. Some may use illegal drugs. Some may ...
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