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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Jul 4, 2008 11:07
Not to diminish the bomb effort but at least they knew E=mc^2 three
decades before they started.
Now with peak oil everyone wants really fundamental research done "on
the wing."
They want "new mature" green industries yesterday.
I'm not saying that breakthroughs are impossible in this climate.
"When a man knows he's going to be hung in a fortnight, it
concentrates the mind wonderfully" applies to everyone.
I'm just saying that attitude makes me really really nervous.
Bret Cahill
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Author: Bob EldBob Eld Date: Jul 4, 2008 12:24
> Not to diminish the bomb effort but at least they knew E=mc^2 three
> decades before they started.
>
> Now with peak oil everyone wants really fundamental research done "on
> the wing."
>
> They want "new mature" green industries yesterday.
>
> I'm not saying that breakthroughs are impossible in this climate.
> "When a man knows he's going to be hung in a fortnight, it
> concentrates the mind wonderfully" applies to everyone.
>
> I'm just saying that attitude makes me really really nervous.
>
>
> Bret Cahill
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Author: Mike Jr.Mike Jr. Date: Jul 4, 2008 13:48
On Jul 4, 2:07 pm, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:> Not to diminish the bomb effort but at least they knew E=mc^2 three
> decades before they started.
>
> Now with peak oil everyone wants really fundamental research done "on
> the wing."
>
> They want "new mature" green industries yesterday.
>
> I'm not saying that breakthroughs are impossible in this climate.
> "When a man knows he's going to be hung in a fortnight, it
> concentrates the mind wonderfully" applies to everyone.
>
> I'm just saying that attitude makes me really really nervous.
>
> Bret Cahill
Nuclear power has been around for how long?
How big are the US coal reserves? How long has coal liquefaction been
around?
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Author: Bob EldBob Eld Date: Jul 4, 2008 14:12
> On Jul 4, 2:07 pm, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:>> Not to diminish the bomb effort but at least they knew E=mc^2 three
>> decades before they started.
>>
>> Now with peak oil everyone wants really fundamental research done "on
>> the wing."
>>
>> They want "new mature" green industries yesterday.
>>
>> I'm not saying that breakthroughs are impossible in this climate.
>> "When a man knows he's going to be hung in a fortnight, it
>> concentrates the mind wonderfully" applies to everyone.
>>
>> I'm just saying that attitude makes me really really nervous.
>>
>> Bret Cahill
>
> Nuclear power has been around for how long? ...
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Author: zzbunkerzzbunker Date: Jul 4, 2008 14:35
On Jul 4, 2:07Â pm, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:> Not to diminish the bomb effort but at least they knew E=mc^2 three
> decades before they started.
But, even better, they knew there were neutrons three decades
before they started.
Since E=MC^2 also supposedly applies to supercomputers, if the
idiot relativers
could ever bring themselves to think about history rather simply
babbling about it.
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Author: Uncle AlUncle Al Date: Jul 4, 2008 14:30
Bret Cahill wrote:
>
> Not to diminish the bomb effort but at least they knew E=mc^2 three
> decades before they started.
>
> Now with peak oil everyone wants really fundamental research done "on
> the wing."
>
> They want "new mature" green industries yesterday.
>
> I'm not saying that breakthroughs are impossible in this climate.
> "When a man knows he's going to be hung in a fortnight, it
> concentrates the mind wonderfully" applies to everyone.
>
> I'm just saying that attitude makes me really really nervous.
>
> Bret Cahill
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Author: Uncle AlUncle Al Date: Jul 4, 2008 14:34
>
> On Jul 4, 2:07 pm, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:>> Not to diminish the bomb effort but at least they knew E=mc^2 three
>> decades before they started.
>
> But, even better, they knew there were neutrons three decades
> before they started.
> Since E=MC^2 also supposedly applies to supercomputers, if the
> idiot relativers
> could ever bring themselves to think about history rather simply
> babbling about it.
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Author: zzbunkerzzbunker Date: Jul 4, 2008 16:22
On Jul 4, 5:34Â pm, Uncle Al hate.spam.net> wrote:>> On Jul 4, 2:07 pm, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:>>> Not to diminish the bomb effort but at least they knew E=mc^2 three
>>> decades before they started.
>
>> Â Â But, even better, they knew there were neutrons three decades
>> before they started.
>> Â Â Since E=MC^2 also supposedly applies to supercomputers, if the
>> idiot relativers
>> Â Â could ever bring themselves to think about history rather simply
>> babbling about it.
>
> [snip crap]
>
> Hey bozo - the Manhattan Project had more Jews/m^2 than a Nazi
> concentration camp. Â The National Energy Crisis! has
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Author: Mike Jr.Mike Jr. Date: Jul 4, 2008 19:26
On Jul 4, 5:12 pm, "Bob Eld" yahoo.com> wrote:>> On Jul 4, 2:07 pm, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:>>> Not to diminish the bomb effort but at least they knew E=mc^2 three
>>> decades before they started.
>
>>> Now with peak oil everyone wants really fundamental research done "on
>>> the wing."
>
>>> They want "new mature" green industries yesterday.
>
>>> I'm not saying that breakthroughs are impossible in this climate.
>>> "When a man knows he's going to be hung in a fortnight, it
>>> concentrates the mind wonderfully" applies to everyone.
> ...
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Author: PubliusPublius Date: Jul 4, 2008 20:44
"Bob Eld" yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Hlwbk.3725$vn7.972@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com:
Couldn't resist juxtaposing these:
> What we need is national leadership that understands this and
> is more interested in funding and pushing the development of alternative
> energy than waging war, for example. It's now a matter of national
> survival much more important than any of the silly terrorism nonsense
> ever was.
And,
> For good or for ill, it's more politics than investment that keeps us
> from doing all we know how to do.
I assume that by "national leadership" you mean gummint, right? But gummint
entails politics, which you admit is, far from being a source of solutions,
an obstacle to them.
If you want to see solutions to the energy "crisis," you'd be well-advised
to insist that gummint keep its hands off. No practical means of producing
energy has ever been conceived or developed by gummints, or under the
"leadership" of gummints.
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