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Einstein Is Seemingly A Deist: You're Allowed To Disagree         


Author: Robert Cohen
Date: May 13, 2008 14:50

The news media isn't overly interested in explaining the nuance of a
passive deity, especially along with the sensationalized article.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080513122249.m3ds3b6j&show_article=1
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Re: Einstein Is Seemingly A Deist: You're Allowed To Disagree         


Author: PopFly
Date: May 13, 2008 21:58

On May 13, 5:50 pm, Robert Cohen msn.com> wrote:
> The news media  isn't overly interested in explaining the nuance of a
> passive deity, especially along with the sensationalized article.
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080513122249.m3ds3b6j&show_ar...

Personally, I don't see a meaningful difference between an atheist and
a deist. Which I intend as a compliment to both groups.

Both groups believe you must examine the world and the human psyche,
not revealed manuscripts, for your clues to truth and to a good life.
That one believes in a creator and one does not, makes no difference
to me; those beliefs aren't action items.
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Re: Einstein Is Seemingly A Deist: You're Allowed To Disagree         


Author: chazwin
Date: May 14, 2008 01:31

On 13 May, 22:50, Robert Cohen msn.com> wrote:
> The news media isn't overly interested in explaining the nuance of a
> passive deity, especially along with the sensationalized article.
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080513122249.m3ds3b6j&show_ar...

I think I will disagree. Einstein could be construed as a deist of a
partcularly extreme kind. But according to some definitions he was
closer to a pantheist.

egBelief in the existence of a Supreme Being as the source of finite
existence, with rejection of revelation and the supernatural doctrines
of Christianity; 'natural religion'.

This definition of "deism" would discount Einstein because his god was
not a "being" but was the universal laws which ordered the universe.
Einstein was at some pains to reject the idea of a personal god. His
"god" has no personality, does not intervene in human affairs and
performs no miracles. He also believed that "religion" was
antithetical to science.
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Re: Einstein Is Seemingly A Deist: You're Allowed To Disagree         


Author: turtoni
Date: May 14, 2008 01:32

"chazwin"

(snip)

we dont know the answers=god.

""""""god"""""""=the answers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r7X3f2gFz4
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Re: Einstein Is Seemingly A Deist: You're Allowed To Disagree         


Author: turtoni
Date: May 14, 2008 01:41

"chazwin"

(reporting from the imaginery frontline)

AND
"Spirituality, in a narrow sense, concerns itself with matters of the
spirit, a concept closely tied to religious belief and faith, a transcendent
reality, and one or more deities. Spiritual matters are thus those matters
regarding humankind's ultimate nature and purpose, not only as material
biological organisms, but as beings with a unique relationship to that which
is beyond both time and the material world.

As such, the spiritual is traditionally contrasted with the material, the
temporal and the worldly. A perceived sense of connection forms a central
defining characteristic of spirituality - connection to a metaphysical
reality greater than oneself, which may include an emotional experience of
religious awe and reverence, or such states as satori or Nirvana. Equally
importantly, spirituality relates to matters of sanity and of psychological
health. Spirituality is the personal, subjective dimension of religion,
particularly that which pertains to liberation or salvation (see also
mysticism)
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Re: Einstein Is Seemingly A Deist: You're Allowed To Disagree         


Author: Robert Cohen
Date: May 14, 2008 06:10

On May 14, 4:41 am, "turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote:
> "chazwin"
>
> (reporting from the imaginery frontline)
>
> AND
> "Spirituality, in a narrow sense, concerns itself with matters of the
> spirit, a concept closely tied to religious belief and faith, a transcendent
> reality, and one or more deities. Spiritual matters are thus those matters
> regarding humankind's ultimate nature and purpose, not only as material
> biological organisms, but as beings with a unique relationship to that which
> is beyond both time and the material world.
>
> As such, the spiritual is traditionally contrasted with the material, the
> temporal and the worldly. A perceived sense of connection forms a central
> defining characteristic of spirituality - connection to a metaphysical
> reality greater than oneself, which may include an emotional experience of
> religious awe and reverence, or such states as satori or Nirvana. Equally
> importantly, spirituality relates to matters of sanity and of psychological
> health. Spirituality is the personal, subjective dimension of religion, ...
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Re: Einstein Is Seemingly A Deist: You're Allowed To Disagree         


Author: Berkeley Brett
Date: May 14, 2008 15:41

Einstein's article in the New York Times (Nov 09, 1930) is relevant
here (shown here in PDF format, requires Adobe Acrobat Reader):

http://www.100bestwebsites.org/alt/bbb/EinsteinReligionAndScienceNYT1930.pdf

Einstein's views appear to have been very much like those of Spinoza
(whom he frequently cites in his philosophical writings). More on
Spinoza here:

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spinoza/

http://www.iep.utm.edu/s/spinoza.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinoza

Best wishes to all....

--
Brett
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Re: Einstein Is Seemingly A Deist: You're Allowed To Disagree         


Author: PopFly
Date: May 14, 2008 19:56

On May 14, 6:41 pm, Berkeley Brett gmail.com> wrote:
> Einstein's article in the New York Times (Nov 09, 1930) is relevant
> here (shown here in PDF format, requires Adobe Acrobat Reader):
>
> http://www.100bestwebsites.org/alt/bbb/EinsteinReligionAndScienceNYT1...
>
> Einstein's views appear to have been very much like those of Spinoza
> (whom he frequently cites in his philosophical writings).  More on
> Spinoza here:
>
> http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spinoza/
>
> http://www.iep.utm.edu/s/spinoza.htm
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinoza
>
> Best wishes to all....
>
> --
> Bretthttp://www.100bestwebsites.org/ ...
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Re: Einstein Is Seemingly A Deist: You're Allowed To Disagree         


Author: Knuje
Date: May 17, 2008 06:01

On May 15, 10:56 am, PopFly gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 14, 6:41 pm, Berkeley Brett gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Einstein's article in the New York Times (Nov 09, 1930) is relevant
>> here (shown here in PDF format, requires Adobe Acrobat Reader):
>
>
>> Einstein's views appear to have been very much like those of Spinoza
>> (whom he frequently cites in his philosophical writings).  More on
>> Spinoza here:
>
>
> ...
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Re: Einstein Is Seemingly A Deist: You're Allowed To Disagree         


Author: Robert Cohen
Date: May 17, 2008 07:19

On May 17, 9:01 am, Knuje hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 15, 10:56 am, PopFly gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On May 14, 6:41 pm, Berkeley Brett gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Einstein's article in the New York Times (Nov 09, 1930) is relevant
>>> here (shown here in PDF format, requires Adobe Acrobat Reader):
>
>
>>> Einstein's views appear to have been very much like those of Spinoza
>>> (whom he frequently cites in his philosophical writings).  More on
>>> Spinoza here:
>
> ...
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