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Author: tata Date: May 26, 2008 19:08
Where does education end and indoctrination begin? What is the
difference?
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: May 26, 2008 20:36
On Mon, 26 May 2008 19:08:30 -0700 (PDT), ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
>Where does education end and indoctrination begin? What is the
>difference?
They are pretty much combined, what counts is "molding" the student
such that satisfying and marketable skills, attitudes, and views are educated and
indoctrinated into the student. IMO any differences deal with the
permanence and source of whatever is learned. If from "nature",
it is education, if from "culture", it is indoctrination. Both are
necessary.
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: May 26, 2008 21:40
On May 27, 12:08 pm, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:> Where does education end and indoctrination begin? What is the
> difference?
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: May 26, 2008 21:44
On May 27, 12:08 pm, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:> Where does education end and indoctrination begin? What is the
> difference?
Education is providing information. Indoctrination is 'pushing'
information, to satisfy the motivation of the provider.
Of course, the indoctrinator always meets the indoctrinatee. Mutual
sense of purpose.
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: May 26, 2008 22:06
> "ta"
> Where does education end and indoctrination begin? What is the
> difference?
"Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive
strategies or a professional methodology. It is often distinguished from
education by the fact that the indoctrinated person is expected ****not****
to question or critically examine the doctrine they have learned."
HTHelps.
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Author: tgtg Date: May 27, 2008 03:29
On May 27, 1:06 am, "turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote:>> "ta"
>> Where does education end and indoctrination begin? What is the
>> difference?
>
> "Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive
> strategies or a professional methodology. It is often distinguished from
> education by the fact that the indoctrinated person is expected ****not****
> to question or critically examine the doctrine they have learned."
>
> HTHelps.
Yes, the point of education is to encourage questioning things. I
would suggest that the difference is primarily in the *process*; in
simplistic terms one is giving answers and the other is asking
questions.
-tg
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: May 27, 2008 04:35
On Mon, 26 May 2008 19:08:30 -0700, ta wrote:
> Where does education end and indoctrination begin? What is the
> difference?
Education usually demands the exclusion of all things outside of the
specific subject matter. This is where indoctrination begins, I think.
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Author: TruthSlaveTruthSlave Date: May 27, 2008 05:56
turtoni wrote:
>> "ta"
>> Where does education end and indoctrination begin? What is the
>> difference?
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> "Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas, attitudes,
> cognitive strategies or a professional methodology. It is often
> distinguished from education by the fact that the indoctrinated person
> is expected ****not**** to question or critically examine the doctrine
> they have learned."
>
> HTHelps.
Interesting point on the 'question', as the means by which to
determine this difference between Education and Indoctrination.
And yet for all that, at the poorest end of the education spectrum,
there isn't the time or the means to allow a true exploration of
the question.
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Author: tata Date: May 27, 2008 07:13
On May 26, 11:36 pm, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:> On Mon, 26 May 2008 19:08:30 -0700 (PDT), ta nc.rr.com> wrote:>>Where does education end and indoctrination begin? What is the
>>difference?
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> They are pretty much combined, what counts is "molding" the student
> such that satisfying and marketable skills, attitudes, and views are educated and
> indoctrinated into the student. IMO any differences deal with the
> permanence and source of whatever is learned. If from "nature",
> it is education, if from "culture", it is indoctrination. Both are
> necessary.
Isn't "culture" from "nature"?
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Author: tata Date: May 27, 2008 07:14
On May 27, 12:44 am, "bigflet...@ gmail.com" gmail.com>
wrote:> On May 27, 12:08 pm, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>> Where does education end and indoctrination begin? What is the
>> difference?
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> Education is providing information. Indoctrination is 'pushing'
> information, to satisfy the motivation of the provider.
Please provide examples of each to illustrate your point.
> Of course, the indoctrinator always meets the indoctrinatee. Mutual
> sense of purpose.
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