Re: does the line 'you are right from your side and i am right from mine' from the hard rain vid put all wittgenstein quoters to ridicule?
  Home FAQ Contact Sign in
alt.philosophy only
 
Advanced search
POPULAR GROUPS

more...

 Up
Re: does the line 'you are right from your side and i am right from mine' from the hard rain vid put all wittgenstein quoters to ridicule?         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Immortalist
Date: Jun 2, 2008 22:46

On Jun 2, 12:49 pm, sirbl...@hotmail.com wrote:
> does the line 'you are right from your
> side and i am right from mine' from the
> hard rain vid put all wittgenstein quoters
> to ridicule?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjf7zmuf1A0

No not -all- of them, but it may or may not put -some- of these
"quoters" to shame, especially Witt quotes about biase clouding our
clear view of things. In social psychology the line of latitude of
acceptance has been past and the anchor not to be found in those
netherlands. But I am skeptical since niether Witt or Dylan are better
or worse than each other, one is a philosopher and the other a poet/
philosopher/musician, and it would be like comparing apples and
oranges and asking which is beter or worse.

Now to the meaning of the song; One Too Many Mornings: "It's the sound
of someone too smitten by love to harbor regrets, grown too
independent to consider a reunion,"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Times_They_Are_a-Changin%%27

Supports for my conclusions;

1. The Latitude of Acceptance is where a person’s personal position
exists along with other alternatives, which are close to the person’s
attitude towards the message. The latitude of acceptance contains the
“anchor” position, which is the single position that a person finds
the most acceptable. The anchor can lie any where in the latitude of
acceptance, from the most extreme to a probability. The larger the
latitude of acceptance the easier it is to persuade or impact
(Sheriff, Sheriff, & Nebergall, 1965).

2. The Latitude of Rejection is where objectionable attitudes exist.
These attitudes are rejected because they are furthest from the anchor
point and the person’s personal opinions (Sheriff, Sheriff, &
Nebergall, 1965).

3. The Latitude of Non-commitment is where attitudes that are neither
accepted nor rejected exist. This latitude is where attitudes of
undecided and no opinion are placed

http://www.ciadvertising.org/student_account/spring_02/adv382j/marykellyharkins/

"Apples and oranges" refers to the idiom "comparing apples and
oranges" or "apples to oranges", which is used to indicate that two
items or groups of items have not been validly compared. The idiom
evokes the apparent differences between items which are popularly
thought to be incomparable or incommensurable, such as apples and
oranges. The idiom may also be used to indicate that a false analogy
has been made between two items, such as where an "apple" is faulted
for not being a good "orange." Conversely, where the comparison or
analogy is valid, the idiom will usually take the form "comparing
apples with apples".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apples_and_oranges

...a false analogy consists of an error in the substance of an
argument (the content of the analogy itself), not an error in the
logical structure of the argument. In an analogy, two concepts,
objects, or events proposed to be similar in nature (A and B) are
shown to have some common relationship with another property. The
premise is that A has property X, and thus B must also have property X
(due to the assumed similarity of A and B). In false analogies, though
A and B may be similar in one respect (such as color) they may not
both share property X (e.g. size). Thus, even if bananas and the sun
appear yellow, one could not conclude that they are the same size.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_analogy

Down the street the dogs are barkin'
And the day is a-gettin' dark.
As the night comes in a-fallin',
The dogs 'll lose their bark.
An' the silent night will shatter
From the sounds inside my mind,
For I'm one too many mornings
And a thousand miles behind.

From the crossroads of my doorstep,
My eyes they start to fade,
As I turn my head back to the room
Where my love and I have laid.
An' I gaze back to the street,
The sidewalk and the sign,
And I'm one too many mornings
An' a thousand miles behind.

It's a restless hungry feeling
That don't mean no one no good,
When ev'rything I'm a-sayin'
You can say it just as good.

-------------
You're right from your side,
I'm right from mine.
-----------------

We're both just one too many mornings
An' a thousand miles behind.

http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/onetoomany.html

Is that Alan Ginsberg on the left side of the screen?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2-xIulyVsG8
no comments
diggit! del.icio.us! reddit!