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Author: Michael GrayMichael Gray Date: Sep 21, 2006 15:29
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>Michael Gray wrote:
>>>It all depends on the person surely? I tmakes some better it makes
>>>some worse, you might as we have asked do donuts make people better or
>>>worse, or perhaps guns. It's too subjective to be off any real use.
>>
>> How on earth can holding an infantile and provable delusion make
>> anyone better, in the long run?
>
>Hey Micheal,
>
>Sorry I didn't notice your reply or I would have got back to you
>sooner.
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Date: Sep 21, 2006 20:18
"Michael Gray" newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
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>>Michael Gray wrote:
>>>>It all depends on the person surely? I tmakes some better it makes
>>>>some worse, you might as we have asked do donuts make people better or
>>>>worse, or perhaps guns. It's too subjective to be off any real use.
>>>
>>> How on earth can holding an infantile and provable delusion make
>>> anyone better, in the long run?
>>
>>Hey Micheal,
>>
>>Sorry I didn't notice your reply or I would have got back to you ...
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Author: Michael GrayMichael Gray Date: Sep 22, 2006 01:57
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:18:52 +1000, "Sean" wrote:
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>"Michael Gray" newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
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>>>Michael Gray wrote:
>>>>>It all depends on the person surely? I tmakes some better it makes
>>>>>some worse, you might as we have asked do donuts make people better or
>>>>>worse, or perhaps guns. It's too subjective to be off any real use.
>>>>
>>>> How on earth can holding an infantile and provable delusion make
>>>> anyone better, in the long run?
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Author: leelee Date: Sep 22, 2006 03:57
Hey Michael,
I said:
'As to faith being provable delusion, prove it!
To which you replied:
'Distraction.
Now: What "belief system"?'
Yeah I guess you are right, or more of a tongue in cheek comment but
there you go.
To your question.
I infered from this: 'How on earth can holding an infantile and
provable delusion make anyone better, in the long run?'
That your belife system would be one based around Atheistic, or
Humanist principles. what did you think I was talking about?
So what about now I have answered one of yours, you answer one of mine?
Namley: 'Notice though, how me a relgious man has not called your
belife system infantile nor delusional, does that make me the better
man?'
Cheers,
Lee.
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Author: Christopher A. LeeChristopher A. Lee Date: Sep 22, 2006 09:43
On 22 Sep 2006 08:10:34 -0700, "lee@ rdfmedia.com" rdfmedia.com>
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>Hey Christopher,
>
>
>No I would not, but it seems that both you and Michael would go into a
>church and lecture them about what an infantile belife system they
>have.
The lying Christian projects what Christians do, onto non-Christians.
>> Now go back and read what you were told, let it sink in and hopefully
>> realise where you went wrong.
>
>I would gladly do so if proof of where I went wrong was forthcoming
>instead of being told such things as: And if you kept your bullshit to
>yourself, nobody would call it infantile or delusional.
Start thinking for a change: non-Christians find the Christian beliefs
as ridiculous as you find the Ancient Greek beliefs, today's Hindu
beliefs, etc.
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Author: Michael GrayMichael Gray Date: Sep 22, 2006 16:34
>Hey Michael,
>
>You said:
>
>'Atheism is NOT a belief system. In fact, it is quite the opposite: it
>characterizes a LACK of a belief system. This little nugget of
>information seems to be incredibly hard to get across to those who have
>suffered under religious indoctrination for most of their lives.'
>
>So we can say then that you are an Atheist?
I call myself atheist.
>Also you might want to
>check up on the dictionary definition of Atheist, as I have it as
>meaning, a belife that there is no God.
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Author: Fred J. McCallFred J. McCall Date: Sep 22, 2006 19:17
"Paul Edwards" wrote:
:"Michael Gray" newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message news:pqh7h21rpj682gu4a4h06hskussi326lav@4ax.com...
:> Atheism is NOT a belief system.
:> In fact, it is quite the opposite:
:> it characterizes a LACK of a belief system.
:
:Lack of belief in a god does not mean lack of a
:belief system.
In point of fact, atheism is a religious belief system, just as all
other religions are.
:> My calling theistic belief systems infantile and delusional is a
:> statement of pure fact.
:
:It's not a fact. There really is a god. Your statement
:does not come from science, and is wrong.
Provide your scientific proof of the existence of a god.
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Author: Michael GrayMichael Gray Date: Sep 22, 2006 22:42
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 02:17:20 GMT, Fred J. McCall
earthlink.net> wrote:
- Refer: <6869h25705nn71ast5m2hh974u6tcqpms8@4ax.com>>"Paul Edwards" wrote:
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>:"Michael Gray" newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message news:pqh7h21rpj682gu4a4h06hskussi326lav@4ax.com...
>:> Atheism is NOT a belief system.
>:> In fact, it is quite the opposite:
>:> it characterizes a LACK of a belief system.
>:
>:Lack of belief in a god does not mean lack of a
>:belief system.
>
>In point of fact, atheism is a religious belief system, just as all
>other religions are.
Absolute and total fucking bullshit.
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Author: Fred J. McCallFred J. McCall Date: Sep 23, 2006 15:30
Michael Gray newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
:On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 02:17:20 GMT, Fred J. McCall
:earthlink.net> wrote:
: - Refer: <6869h25705nn71ast5m2hh974u6tcqpms8@4ax.com>
:>"Paul Edwards" wrote:
:>
:>:"Michael Gray" newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message news:pqh7h21rpj682gu4a4h06hskussi326lav@4ax.com...
:>:> Atheism is NOT a belief system.
:>:> In fact, it is quite the opposite:
:>:> it characterizes a LACK of a belief system.
:>:
:>:Lack of belief in a god does not mean lack of a
:>:belief system.
:>
:>In point of fact, atheism is a religious belief system, just as all
:>other religions are.
:
:Absolute and total fucking bullshit.
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Author: Christopher A. LeeChristopher A. Lee Date: Sep 23, 2006 16:24
On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 22:30:05 GMT, Fred J. McCall
earthlink.net> wrote:
>Michael Gray newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
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>:On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 02:17:20 GMT, Fred J. McCall
>:earthlink.net> wrote:
>: - Refer: <6869h25705nn71ast5m2hh974u6tcqpms8@4ax.com>
>:>"Paul Edwards"...
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