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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Oct 25, 2006 18:36
a) over-due market adjustment/correction/balance
b) an overall coming recession
c) an overall coming depression
d) a domino effect into b or c
e) collapse of the heavily debted/leveraged U.S. economic &/or
financial system, massive bankruptcies, mass unemployment, chaos,
horrors worse than one could envision
f) healthier, rational, lessening of previous go-go growth economy
g) the end of the affluent American way of life and return to
Depression mentality
h) very many mortgage company & multiple banking company failures from
excessive defaults/foreclosures
i) all the above
The article that provokes my off-the-wall paranoia
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-102506homes,0,2287716.story?track=mostviewed-...
Existing home sales drop 1/3 from '05
By Jesus Sanchez, Times Staff Writer
11:48 AM PDT, October 25, 2006
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Author: tgtg Date: Oct 26, 2006 02:50
The fall of the US will be because people read "sales fell" and think
it means "prices fell".
Do you actually read the stuff you post?
-tg
Robert Cohen wrote:
> a) over-due market adjustment/correction/balance
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> b) an overall coming recession
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> c) an overall coming depression
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> d) a domino effect into b or c
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> e) collapse of the heavily...
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Oct 26, 2006 06:08
I accept your point: sales are 30 percent down, but prices apparently
only slightly so far
But won't the prices subsequently become much lower when people
actually have to move, since the average move or turnover is every
5--7 years?
I was very recently in Florida, and the definite message I get is that
prices are indeed falling seemingly in more than one area of
Florida--though the "percent" of price decline is ambiguous since it's
such an inherently volatile market dynamic.
Of course the Florida property insurance situation has something to do
with it all too.
I apologize to all readers for the inadvertent distorting of
prices/sales volume.
I certainly hope my fears herein this thread sensationally expressed
are more fantasy/paranoia than the fact/reality
We know that markets fluctuate, and a collapse in housing prices is not
an implausibilty, and whatever I post/think/fear has little to no
impact, which I suppose isn't a bad thing afterall.
tg wrote:
> The fall of the US will be because people read "sales fell" and think
> it means "prices fell".
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> Do you actually read the stuff you post?
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> -tg
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> Robert Cohen wrote:
>> a) over...
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Author: tgtg Date: Oct 26, 2006 07:17
Robert Cohen wrote:
> I accept your point: sales are 30 percent down, but prices apparently
> only slightly so far
>
> But won't the prices subsequently become much lower when people
> actually have to move, since the average move or turnover is every
> 5--7 years?
>
> I was very recently in Florida, and the definite message I get is that
> prices are indeed falling seemingly in more than one area of
> Florida--though the "percent" of price decline is ambiguous since it's
> such an inherently volatile market dynamic.
>
I don't think prices fluctuate as much as you think, except where there
is extreme speculation---which might well be the case in Florida. If
you buy a house first to live in and them perhaps as a long-term
investment, what matters is L-L-L, as the real estate agents say. If
your neighborhood tanks, you're screwed, and if your neighborhood is
poor and it gets gentrified you get rich.
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Oct 26, 2006 07:34
Here is sumthin very pertinent to our discussion via Drudge's
tabloidish page:
Note how the story/phenomena vary between the Calif story and this
story
Hey, folks, that's reality: demonstrative of the
perceptions/dynamics/disputations of reality.
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/26/D8L0C4N00.html
Home Price Drop Is Largest in 35 Years
Oct 26 10:12 AM US/Eastern
By MARTIN CRUTSINGER
AP Economics Writer
WASHINGTON
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Oct 27, 2006 09:54
> Here is sumthin very pertinent to our discussion via Drudge's
> tabloidish page:
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> Note how the story/phenomena vary between the Calif story and this
> story
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> Hey, folks, that's...
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Author: tgtg Date: Oct 27, 2006 10:54
Robert Cohen wrote:
> Recall that "end of history" overly-optimistic crape?
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> Well, this is the end of ....uh...."economic optimism," perhaps:
As your official proofreader....
Don't these last two give different figures for the same September
price drops?
And could you demonstrate your sincerity by giving an explanation of
'median' in your own words, and what such a number tells us?
-tg
>> Here is sumthin very pertinent to our discussion via Drudge's
>> tabloidish page:
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>> Note...
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Oct 27, 2006 16:02
I perceive the message is ambiguity & contradiction, because:
10. Hey, newspapers are obsolete/going outa bizness--they can't afford
adding machine monthly payments
9. Houses and homes: There are differences according to Funk &
Wagnalls.
8. Math as an abstraction: Archimedes & Pythagoras have images in their
minds, and thus Berkeley can't get rid of that hovel in California
7. Surreal estate prices
6. What about that outrageous commission & fees for dis portasan and
dat respinwahl
5--1.. If ya doesn't like it, then move to Cuba or North Korea
tg wrote:
> Robert Cohen wrote:
>> Recall that "end of history" overly-optimistic crape?
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>> Well, this is the end of ....uh...."economic optimism," perhaps:
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> As your official proofreader....
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Nov 2, 2006 19:06
Hey, the question is howw much the prices fall?
A really bad fall could wreak domino havoc.
Each of us has an individual self-interest concern of course.
Thus, I'm interested from both angles (personal & politica-economic).
An housing economic situation report by CS MONITOR
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1103/p01s01-usec.html
Robert Cohen wrote:
> I perceive the message is ambiguity & contradiction, because:
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> 10. Hey, newspapers are obsolete/going outa bizness--they can't afford
> adding machine monthly payments
> 9. Houses...
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