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does capitalism like philosophy?         


Author: sirblob2
Date: Jul 2, 2008 00:17

or does it only like economics? cuz under capitalism only thing
philosophy departments seem to do is disappear.
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Re: does capitalism like philosophy?         


Author: Leon Hoeneveld
Date: Jul 2, 2008 00:38

sirblob2@hotmail.com schreef:
> or does it only like economics? cuz under capitalism only thing
> philosophy departments seem to do is disappear.

Kapitalism feeds on frustration. Maybe philosophers have learned to deal
with frustration, and then they are no longer usefull.
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Re: does capitalism like philosophy?         


Author: Paul Grieg
Date: Jul 2, 2008 03:19

On Jul 2, 8:17 am, sirbl...@hotmail.com wrote:
> or does it only like economics? cuz under capitalism only thing
> philosophy departments seem to do is disappear.

If there's a market for philosophy then capitalism can be said to like
it. If philosophy departments are disappearing (where's your evidence
for that?) then it is because the customers are not there.
Professional academic philosophers are competing in an equal
marketplace for students, and if they cannot attract as many students
as (say) media studies departments then the failure is theirs, and
they should be cast out to do philosophy on the dole (it might
actually do the some good!)

Read Bryan Magee's "Confessions" and you can see why Oxbridge
universities philosophy departments failed to attract students in the
past few decades, and deserved to die. I for one (intensely motivated
to study *real* philosophy) decided to pursue physics & maths rather
than get involved with 'classics wonks' who wouldn't know a quark from
their backside and were only interested in trivial linguistic
flapdoodle.
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Re: does capitalism like philosophy?         


Author: Paul Grieg
Date: Jul 2, 2008 03:20

On Jul 2, 8:38 am, Leon Hoeneveld wrote:
> sirbl...@hotmail.com schreef:
>
>> or does it only like economics? cuz under capitalism only thing
>> philosophy departments seem to do is disappear.
>
> Kapitalism feeds on frustration. Maybe philosophers have learned to deal
> with frustration, and then they are no longer usefull.

Can't they, like Epicurus and the Buddha, teach us also how to deal
with frustration? Sounds useful to me...
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Re: does capitalism like philosophy?         


Author: Leon Hoeneveld
Date: Jul 2, 2008 04:18

Paul Grieg schreef:
> On Jul 2, 8:38 am, Leon Hoeneveld wrote:
>> sirbl...@hotmail.com schreef:
>>
>>> or does it only like economics? cuz under capitalism only thing
>>> philosophy departments seem to do is disappear.
>> Kapitalism feeds on frustration. Maybe philosophers have learned to deal
>> with frustration, and then they are no longer usefull.
>
> Can't they, like Epicurus and the Buddha, teach us also how to deal
> with frustration? Sounds useful to me...

Frustration is a motivator for going on. To buy more stuff, to want what
others have, to want something new and exiting.

Out of frustration the teachings of Epicurus and Buddha were created.

But we just don't want frustration to end, or we would get enourmously
frustrated by the fact that the frustration had gone.
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Re: does capitalism like philosophy?         


Author: Leon Hoeneveld
Date: Jul 2, 2008 04:22

Paul Grieg schreef:
> On Jul 2, 8:17 am, sirbl...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> or does it only like economics? cuz under capitalism only thing
>> philosophy departments seem to do is disappear.
>
> If there's a market for philosophy then capitalism can be said to like
> it. If philosophy departments are disappearing (where's your evidence
> for that?) then it is because the customers are not there.
> Professional academic philosophers are competing in an equal
> marketplace for students, and if they cannot attract as many students
> as (say) media studies departments then the failure is theirs, and
> they should be cast out to do philosophy on the dole (it might
> actually do the some good!)
>
> Read Bryan Magee's "Confessions" and you can see why Oxbridge
> universities philosophy departments failed to attract students in the
> past few decades, and deserved to die. I for one (intensely motivated
> to study *real* philosophy) decided to pursue physics & maths rather
> than get involved with 'classics wonks' who wouldn't know a quark from
> their backside and were only interested in trivial linguistic ...
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Re: does capitalism like philosophy?         


Author: sirblob2
Date: Jul 2, 2008 05:42

On 2 jul, 13:22, Leon Hoeneveld wrote:
> Paul Grieg schreef:
>
>
>
>> On Jul 2, 8:17 am, sirbl...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> or does it only like economics? cuz under capitalism only thing
>>> philosophy departments seem to do is disappear.
>
>> If there's a market for philosophy then capitalism can be said to like
>> it. If philosophy departments are disappearing (where's your evidence
>> for that?) then it is because the customers are not there.
>> Professional academic philosophers are competing in an equal
>> marketplace for students, and if they cannot attract as many students
>> as (say) media studies departments then the failure is theirs, and
>> they should be cast out to do philosophy on the dole (it might
>> actually do the some good!)
>
>> Read Bryan Magee's "Confessions" and you can see why Oxbridge
>> universities philosophy departments failed to attract students in the ...
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Re: does capitalism like philosophy?         


Author: sirblob2
Date: Jul 2, 2008 05:43

On 2 jul, 13:18, Leon Hoeneveld wrote:
> Paul Grieg schreef:
>
>> On Jul 2, 8:38 am, Leon Hoeneveld wrote:
>>> sirbl...@hotmail.com schreef:
>
>>>> or does it only like economics? cuz under capitalism only thing
>>>> philosophy departments seem to do is disappear.
>>> Kapitalism feeds on frustration. Maybe philosophers have learned to deal
>>> with frustration, and then they are no longer usefull.
>
>> Can't they, like Epicurus and the Buddha, teach us also how to deal
>> with frustration? Sounds useful to me...
>
> Frustration is a motivator for going on. To buy more stuff, to want what
> others have, to want something new and exiting.
>
> Out of frustration the teachings of Epicurus and Buddha were created.
>
> But we just don't want frustration to end, or we would get enourmously ...
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Re: does capitalism like philosophy?         


Author: calvin
Date: Jul 2, 2008 07:56

On Jul 2, 3:17 am, sirbl...@hotmail.com wrote:
> or does it only like economics? cuz under capitalism only thing
> philosophy departments seem to do is disappear.

Capitalism is merely trade. Trade is a philosophical
concept. "Free trade", by the way, is redundant.
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Re: does capitalism like philosophy?         


Author: Leon Hoeneveld
Date: Jul 2, 2008 09:23

sirblob2@hotmail.com schreef:
> On 2 jul, 13:18, Leon Hoeneveld wrote:
>> Paul Grieg schreef:
>>
>>> On Jul 2, 8:38 am, Leon Hoeneveld wrote:
>>>> sirbl...@hotmail.com schreef:
>>>>> or does it only like economics? cuz under capitalism only thing
>>>>> philosophy departments seem to do is disappear.
>>>> Kapitalism feeds on frustration. Maybe philosophers have learned to deal
>>>> with frustration, and then they are no longer usefull.
>>> Can't they, like Epicurus and the Buddha, teach us also how to deal
>>> with frustration? Sounds useful to me...
>> Frustration is a motivator for going on. To buy more stuff, to want what
>> others have, to want something new and exiting.
>>
>> Out of frustration the teachings of Epicurus and Buddha were created.
>>
>> But we just don't want frustration to end, or we would get enourmously
>> frustrated by the fact that the frustration had gone.
> ...
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