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Do humans have a hardwired universal moral grammar         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Nov 7, 2006 11:06

How do humans develop their capacity to make moral decisions?

Do humans have a universal moral grammar, an instinctive, unconscious
tool kit for constructing moral systems.

For example, although we might not be able to articulate immediately
the moral principle underlying the ban on incest, our moral faculty
instinctually declares that incest is disgusting and thus
impermissible.

Humans have evolved a universal moral instinct, unconsciously
propelling us to deliver judgments of right and wrong independent of
gender, education, and religion. Experience tunes up our moral actions,
guiding what we do as opposed to how we deliver our moral verdicts.

For hundreds of years, scholars have argued that moral judgments arise
from rational and voluntary deliberations about what ought to be. The
common belief today is that we reach moral decisions by consciously
reasoning from principled explanations of what society determines is
right or wrong. This perspective has generated the further belief that
our moral psychology is founded entirely on experience and education,
developing slowly and subject to considerable variation across
cultures.
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Re: Do humans have a hardwired universal moral grammar         


Author: a_friend
Date: Nov 7, 2006 18:16

Immortalist wrote:
> How do humans develop their capacity to make moral decisions?
>
> Do humans have a universal moral grammar, an instinctive, unconscious
> tool kit for constructing moral systems.
>
> For example, although we might not be able to articulate immediately
> the moral principle underlying the ban on incest, our moral faculty
> instinctually declares that incest is disgusting and thus
> impermissible.
>
> Humans have evolved a universal moral instinct, unconsciously
> propelling us to deliver judgments of right and wrong independent of
> gender, education, and religion. Experience tunes up our moral actions,
> guiding what we do as opposed to how we deliver our moral verdicts.
>
> For hundreds of years, scholars have argued that moral judgments arise
> from rational and voluntary deliberations about what ought to be. The
> common belief today is that we reach moral decisions by consciously
> reasoning from principled explanations of what society determines is ...
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Re: Do humans have a hardwired universal moral grammar         


Author: liezard
Date: Nov 8, 2006 00:37

Immortalist wrote:
> http://www.amazon.com/Moral-Minds-Nature-Designed-Universal/dp/0060780703/
>
> The proposal, [that people are born with a moral grammar wired into
> their neural circuits by evolution] if true, would have far-reaching
> consequences. It implies that parents and teachers are not teaching
> children the rules of correct behavior from scratch but are, at best,
> giving shape to an innate behavior. And it suggests that religions are
> not the source of moral codes but, rather, social enforcers of
> instinctive moral behavior.
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OT: Re: Do humans have a hardwired universal moral grammar         


Author: Peter Webb
Date: Nov 8, 2006 00:52

"Immortalist" yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1162926380.113678.12010@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> How do humans develop their capacity to make moral decisions?
>
> Do humans have a universal moral grammar, an instinctive, unconscious
> tool kit for constructing moral systems.
>
> For example, although we might not be able to articulate immediately
> the moral principle underlying the ban on incest, our moral faculty
> instinctually declares that incest is disgusting and thus
> impermissible.
>

Excellent example. Incest has not always been taboo in all societies,
proving that it is not hard wired but culurally determined.
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Re: OT: Re: Do humans have a hardwired universal moral grammar         


Author: Daniel T.
Date: Nov 8, 2006 03:50

"Peter Webb" optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> "Immortalist" yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> How do humans develop their capacity to make moral decisions?
>>
>> Do humans have a universal moral grammar, an instinctive,
>> unconscious tool kit for constructing moral systems.
>>
>> For example, although we might not be able to articulate
>> immediately the moral principle underlying the ban on incest, our
>> moral faculty instinctually declares that incest is disgusting and
>> thus impermissible.
>
> Excellent example. Incest has not always been taboo in all
> societies, proving that it is not hard wired but culurally
> determined.

In those societies in which incest was not taboo, the wiring may have
been different. So, the example proves nothing one way or the other.
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Re: Do humans have a hardwired universal moral grammar         


Author: Frederick Williams
Date: Nov 8, 2006 04:25

Immortalist wrote:
>
> How do humans develop their capacity to make moral decisions?

Some don't: consider Bush and Blair.

--
Behold, we know not anything;
I can but trust that good shall fall
At last--far off--at last, to all,
And every winter change to spring.
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Re: Do humans have a hardwired universal moral grammar         


Author: lee
Date: Nov 8, 2006 05:00

That there is some genetic base or predisposition towards a human
morality I don't doubt, I would though argue the degree. I feel it to
be tiny, and the rest is made up of socilical reasons.
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Re: Do humans have a hardwired universal moral grammar         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Nov 8, 2006 08:22

a_friend wrote:
> Immortalist wrote:
>> How do humans develop their capacity to make moral decisions?
>>
>> Do humans have a universal moral grammar, an instinctive, unconscious
>> tool kit for constructing moral systems.
>>
>> For example, although we might not be able to articulate immediately
>> the moral principle underlying the ban on incest, our moral faculty
>> instinctually declares that incest is disgusting and thus
>> impermissible.
>>
>> Humans have evolved a universal moral instinct, unconsciously
>> propelling us to deliver judgments of right and wrong independent of
>> gender, education, and religion. Experience tunes up our moral actions,
>> guiding what we do as opposed to how we deliver our moral verdicts.
>>
>> For hundreds of years, scholars have argued that moral judgments arise
>> from rational and voluntary deliberations about what ought to be. The
>> common belief today is that we reach moral decisions by consciously ...
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Re: Do humans have a hardwired universal moral grammar         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Nov 8, 2006 08:27

liezard wrote:
> Immortalist wrote:
>> http://www.amazon.com/Moral-Minds-Nature-Designed-Universal/dp/0060780703/
>>
>> The proposal, [that people are born with a moral grammar wired into
>> their neural circuits by evolution] if true, would have far-reaching
>> consequences. It implies that parents and teachers are not teaching
>> children the rules of correct behavior from scratch but are, at best,
>> giving shape to an innate behavior. And it suggests that religions are
>> not the source of moral codes but, rather, social enforcers of
>> instinctive moral behavior.
>
> life is sub-moral
> or pre-moral
> or non-moral
> life can even be transmoral
> but the fabric of reality can never be moral because reality would then
> get very depressed and all the atoms would fly apart at the nucleus
> sending protons and neutrons flying around (essentially a nuclear bomb)
> and free electrons would cause rampant static electricity shock ...
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Re: OT: Re: Do humans have a hardwired universal moral grammar         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Nov 8, 2006 08:33

Daniel T. wrote:
> "Peter Webb" optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> "Immortalist" yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How do humans develop their capacity to make moral decisions?
>>>
>>> Do humans have a universal moral grammar, an instinctive,
>>> unconscious tool kit for constructing moral systems.
>>>
>>> For example, although we might not be able to articulate
>>> immediately the moral principle underlying the ban on incest, our
>>> moral faculty instinctually declares that incest is disgusting and
>>> thus impermissible.
>>
>> Excellent example. Incest has not always been taboo in all
>> societies, proving that it is not hard wired but culurally
>> determined.
>
> In those societies in which incest was not taboo, the wiring may have
> been different. So, the example proves nothing one way or the other. ...
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