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Author: tooly
Date: Aug 13, 2008 04:08

"turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote in message
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On Aug 13, 3:05 am, C3 aol.com> wrote:
> From a non-psychological perspective, what is disillusionment?
>
> C3
>>"The act of freeing from an illusion, or the state of being freed
>>therefrom."
>>There's hope for you yet.
>>Get back to the basics.
>>FUCK 'EM ALL, brother.
>>Be yourself.
>>Don't let the stories absorb you.
>>You make the stories.
>>Your stories.
>>All their stories are lies.
>>Have trust in our self and take it one step at a time.
>>Climb your own mountains. ***YOU*** have the tools.

You give all the reasons why I stay with the Christian 'story' and model,
bedamned my education, anything any of you bastards would have to say, or
'reality' itself, LOL. Maybe it's all 'false', and we are left with our
existential blindness to contend with...it remains, we still must scan the
horizon and choose a path, even if it is like Sir Fred's 'no path' [no,
nueral networks and AI singularities, whatever that means, do not make paths
themselves, much as the machetti is not the path it cleaves in the jungle].

Why Christ one might ask me [with their snickers and low brow disrespect of
something they see as ignorance]....well, as I've scanned my horizon for 57
years now, the only thing that seems to be of much worth in this experience
upon this planet is the inspiration of Love [yuk, I hate the word itself,
for it seems so all encompassing of 'mush']. If I could explain how I see
the Christ model in a sentence, I say simply "Love for to sake of itself".
This does not forsake the underlying reality of neurons and brain chemistry,
but only allocates 'thought' in such way that the OBJECT of stimulation is
precise and for reason of that purpose that LOVE is. Once attained, even
the Sir Fredericks are cured you know, ha [their curmudgeon nihilism
instantly changed to something far more purposeful]. But you have to
attain the state first to understand well. I think we begin to realize
that ever word, ever utterance, every nuance of anything ever said or that
we will say or think, all enters into the programming we provide ourselves.
Once having experienced LOVE in the framework of a super existence within
which I aspire [God], I found a life far more worth the living than the
mundane nothingness that almost all other things on my horizon offered [in
comparison]. I realized in fact, that LOVE in fact, is of the essence of
all meaning that we'd ever find in anything while alive in this world
[though we name it many things, as if drinking from different cups from the
same sea].

I kinda wish we could work on the language though. The only word I have is
LOVE...and it's range seems to be to implicit over such a wide variance that
it loses impact. That I LOVE vanilla ice cream seems a far cry difference
than how I LOVE my wife...and how I LOVE my wife, pale in comparison to the
LOVE I have found in my vision of Christ's model.

Stories? Machs Nichts. It's the state that counts no matter how we attain
the state.

Oh...and disallusionment? I have pinpointed three experiences that are most
difficult for humans to overcome [emprically defined I suppose] and
disallusionment is perhaps the hardest of the three [the other two being
disappointment of any kind, and injustice]. We can weather pest and
pestulence and desease and even war better than these three things, for they
are insiduous to the soul [whatever soul we might carry
psychologically....the core of what makes us tick whatever].
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