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Dialogue of Buddha and Nietzsche before God (Bertrand Russell's imaginary exchange)         


Author: Berkeley Brett
Date: Aug 4, 2007 03:06

In chapter 25 (titled "Nietzsche") of Bertrand Russell's "A History of
Western Philosophy" (1945), we find an imaginary dialogue between
Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche and the Buddha. Perhaps you'll find it
interesting (as I did)....

=== begin quoted passage (italicized words in the original enclosed in
asterisks) ===

[Bertrand Russell, in his own voice]:

The ethical, as opposed to the political, question is one as to *sym­
pathy*. Sympathy, in the sense of being made unhappy by the sufferi­
ngs of others, is to some extent natural to human beings; young...
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Re: Dialogue of Buddha and Nietzsche before God (Bertrand Russell's imaginary exchange)         


Author: Day Brown
Date: Aug 4, 2007 04:37

Didnt Russel read Aristotles' Nicomachean Ethics?
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Re: Dialogue of Buddha and Nietzsche before God (Bertrand Russell's imaginary exchange)         


Author: Don Stockbauer
Date: Aug 4, 2007 05:16

On Aug 4, 4:06 am, Berkeley Brett gmail.com> wrote:
> In chapter 25 (titled "Nietzsche") of Bertrand Russell's "A History of
> Western Philosophy" (1945), we find an imaginary dialogue between
> Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche and the Buddha. Perhaps you'll find it
> interesting (as I did)....
>
> === begin quoted passage (italicized words in the original enclosed in
> asterisks) ===
>
> [Bertrand Russell, in his own voice]:
>
> The ethical, as opposed to the political, question is one as to *sym­
> pathy*. Sympathy, in the sense of being made unhappy by the sufferi­
> ngs of others, is to some extent natural to human beings; young
> children are troubled when they hear other children crying. But the
> development of this feeling is very different in different people.
> Some find pleasure in the infliction of torture; others, like Buddha,
> feel that they cannot be completely happy so long as any living thing
> is suffering. Most people divide mankind emotionally into friends and
> enemies, feeling sympathy for the former, but not for the latter. An ...
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Re: Dialogue of Buddha and Nietzsche before God (Bertrand Russell's imaginary exchange)         


Author: tooly
Date: Aug 4, 2007 12:23

"Berkeley Brett" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1186222015.478209.196550@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
In chapter 25 (titled "Nietzsche") of Bertrand Russell's "A History of
Western Philosophy" (1945), we find an imaginary dialogue between
Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche and the Buddha. Perhaps you'll find it
interesting (as I did)....

=== begin quoted passage (italicized words in the original enclosed in
asterisks) ===

[Bertrand Russell, in his own voice]:

The ethical, as opposed to the political, question is one as to *sym
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Re: Dialogue of Buddha and Nietzsche before God (Bertrand Russell's imaginary exchange)         


Author: brian fletcher
Date: Aug 5, 2007 20:38

"tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "Berkeley Brett" gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1186222015.478209.196550@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> In chapter 25 (titled "Nietzsche") of Bertrand Russell's "A History of
> Western Philosophy" (1945), we find an imaginary dialogue between
> Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche and the Buddha. Perhaps you'll find it
> interesting (as I did)....
>
> === begin quoted passage (italicized words in the original enclosed in
> asterisks) ===
>
> [Bertrand Russell, in his own voice]:
>

SNIP....

Sympathetic response, in a physics sense, is a secondary response from a
primary action.A guitar string plucked being an example.
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Re: Dialogue of Buddha and Nietzsche before God (Bertrand Russell's imaginary exchange)         


Author: tooly
Date: Aug 6, 2007 10:50

"brian fletcher" bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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> "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:Dm4ti.1051$Wd2.1045@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> "Berkeley Brett" gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1186222015.478209.196550@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> In chapter 25 (titled "Nietzsche") of Bertrand Russell's "A History of
>> Western Philosophy" (1945), we find an imaginary dialogue between
>> Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche and the Buddha. Perhaps you'll find it
>> interesting (as I did)....
>>
>> === begin quoted passage (italicized words in the original enclosed in
>> asterisks) ===
>>
>> [Bertrand Russell, in his own voice]:
>>
>
> SNIP.... ...
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Re: Dialogue of Buddha and Nietzsche before God (Bertrand Russell's imaginary exchange)         


Author: GatherNoMoss
Date: Aug 6, 2007 11:29

On Aug 4, 3:23 pm, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Thanks for this excerpt. There is a simple solution to both however. If I
> were either Buddah or Nietzsche, I would say to God, no matter what world
> you create, make your presence KNOWN.

Yes I've yelled out the same request myself in the middle of those
disturbed nights.

"I'd be so much better if you'd send down an angel or perhaps a
burning bush or something...so I could know for sure."

Nothing.

But then what good is faith ?

I'm lead to believe we're in somekind of bootcamp.
Perhaps the point of it IS faith.
Toughing things out blind and without communications with
Headquarters.

In that perspective it's Nietzsche who wasn't of such tough fiber.
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Re: Dialogue of Buddha and Nietzsche before God (Bertrand Russell's imaginary exchange)         


Author: tooly
Date: Aug 6, 2007 14:52

"GatherNoMoss" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Aug 4, 3:23 pm, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> Thanks for this excerpt. There is a simple solution to both however. If
>> I
>> were either Buddah or Nietzsche, I would say to God, no matter what world
>> you create, make your presence KNOWN.
>
> Yes I've yelled out the same request myself in the middle of those
> disturbed nights.
>
> "I'd be so much better if you'd send down an angel or perhaps a
> burning bush or something...so I could know for sure."
>
> Nothing.
>
> But then what good is faith ?
>
> I'm lead to believe we're in somekind of bootcamp.
> Perhaps the point of it IS faith. ...
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Re: Dialogue of Buddha and Nietzsche before God (Bertrand Russell's imaginary exchange)         


Author: turtoni
Date: Aug 6, 2007 18:06

> "tooly"
> Bring on the boils...

"The passions of hate arise from several features of our thinking
process. These include a desire to strengthen our community and to
alleviate our fear. The ability to quickly separate friend from foe is
essential to self-defense and safety and provides the origins of hate.

However, hatred in modern life is frequently unrelated to survival or
self-defense. People are capable of hating others with different
political and religious views, different lifestyles, and even fans of
opposing sports teams."
>I side with Job.

"an ancient proverb states that love is a high form of tolerance. This
view is one that many philosophers and scholars have researched, and
is widely accepted."
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Re: Dialogue of Buddha and Nietzsche before God (Bertrand Russell's imaginary exchange)         


Author: tooly
Date: Aug 6, 2007 22:28

"turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote in message
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>> "tooly"
>> Bring on the boils...
>

Hmm..you went off topic, but ok, I'll bite...
> "The passions of hate arise from several features of our thinking
> process. These include a desire to strengthen our community and to
> alleviate our fear. The ability to quickly separate friend from foe is
> essential to self-defense and safety and provides the origins of hate.

I personally 'hate' when I am made to eat the crap of someone else [not you
of course Turtoni..BTW, are you really Italian?]. It's about justice
really. But that's the simple answer. If the truth were...
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