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Author: XarxXarx Date: Apr 15, 2008 13:54
The idea of invading a living human's body by another spirit is of course
wrong.
With a demon or possession - the human may then do wrong or odd things and
not understand. Phrases like "You are not the person I married - you have
changed" can be put down to this. A human may commence eating vast
quantities of food and become very overweight - the demon or demons enjoying
the food by way of possession.
Crimes and sins and many of the wrongs of humans could be caused by demonic
possession.
"I don't feel myself today" many clues as to character changes caused by
these numerous wandering spirits. They like to enter bodies and experience
kisses and love - and often when love dies it is the demon or demons who
cause this. Relationships change. Again due to this problem.
Angels cannot be possessed - they live way on high and out of reach.
They are aware of this problem.
This is a large problem. Much larger than you would like to think.
Bad language. Many crimes - hearing of voices - all caused by this problem
on Earth among humans.
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Author: Angus RodgersAngus Rodgers Date: Apr 15, 2008 14:49
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:54:54 GMT, "Xarx" neoncity.com> wrote:
>The idea of invading a living human's body by another spirit is of course
>wrong.
>With a demon or possession - the human may then do wrong or odd things and
>not understand. Phrases like "You are not the person I married - you have
>changed" can be put down to this. A human may commence eating vast
>quantities of food and become very overweight - the demon or demons enjoying
>the food by way of possession.
>Crimes and sins and many of the wrongs of humans could be caused by demonic
>possession. [...]
Are social norms demons? Colin Wilson wrote a sci-fi/horror novel
called "The Mind Parasites". Might something like its premise be
literally true?* Might social systems constitute a form of 'life',
parasitic on individual conscious human life, but not itself human
or conscious? If so, how (if at all) does this relate to the idea
that we are mere 'gene machines', servants of our 'selfish genes'?
Mere consciousness does not free us, but does it nevertheless have
some potential to do so?
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Apr 15, 2008 21:21
On Apr 15, 2:49 pm, Angus Rodgers bigfoot.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:54:54 GMT, "Xarx" neoncity.com> wrote:
>>The idea of invading a living human's body by another spirit is of course
>>wrong.
>>With a demon or possession - the human may then do wrong or odd things and
>>not understand. Phrases like "You are not the person I married - you have
>>changed" can be put down to this. A human may commence eating vast
>>quantities of food and become very overweight - the demon or demons enjoying
>>the food by way of possession.
>>Crimes and sins and many of the wrongs of humans could be caused by demonic
>>possession. [...]
>
> Are social norms demons? Colin Wilson wrote a sci-fi/horror novel
> called "The Mind Parasites". Might something like its premise be
> literally true?* Might social systems constitute a form of 'life',
> parasitic on individual conscious human life, but not itself human
> or conscious? If so, how (if at all) does this relate to the idea
> that we are mere 'gene machines', servants of our 'selfish genes'?
> Mere consciousness does not free us, but does it nevertheless have
> some potential to do so? ...
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Author: C3C3 Date: Apr 15, 2008 23:18
On Apr 15, 1:54�pm, "Xarx" neoncity.com> wrote:
> The idea of invading a living human's body by another spirit is of course
> wrong.
> With a demon or possession - the human may then do wrong or odd things and
> not understand. �Phrases like "You are not the person I married - you have
> changed" can be put down to this. �A human may commence eating vast
> quantities of food and become very overweight - the demon or demons enjoying
> the food by way of possession.
> Crimes and sins and many of the wrongs of humans could be caused by demonic
> possession.
>
> "I don't feel myself today" many clues as to character changes caused by
> these numerous wandering spirits. �They like to enter bodies and experience
> kisses and love - and often when love dies it is the demon or demons who
> cause this. �Relationships change. �Again due to this problem.
>
> Angels cannot be possessed - they live way on high and out of reach.
> They are aware of this problem.
>
> This is a large problem. �Much larger than you would like to think. ...
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Apr 15, 2008 23:22
Anything that is "wrong" is the work of the devil.
HTH.
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Author: Angus RodgersAngus Rodgers Date: Apr 16, 2008 04:40
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:21:42 -0700 (PDT), Immortalist
yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Apr 15, 2:49 pm, Angus Rodgers bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:54:54 GMT, "Xarx" neoncity.com> wrote:
>>>The idea of invading a living human's body by another spirit is...
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Author: Angus RodgersAngus Rodgers Date: Apr 16, 2008 04:52
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:40:22 +0100, I wrote:
>[...] government by
>merely memetic moral norms? (The latter is the "heavily loaded"
>aspect of memetics in general that most concerns me.)
To be just a little clearer about this (I know I've barely even
started to be clear about it): in my first article in this thread,
I used the phrase "social norms". This fails to convey the moral
aspect, so in my reply to you I changed it to "moral norms". But
this wrongly suggests that I mean only rules which are explicitly
moralistic. I won't try to clarify this any further; I'll just
leave it confused as it is, reflecting my own present state of
confusion. (It definitely can be clarified, but in general I don't
think it's worth struggling to make one's words completely clear
unless and until a real misunderstanding arises, in the course of
a real conversation.)
--
Angus Rodgers
(twirlip@ eats spam; reply to angusrod@)
Contains mild peril
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Author: toolytooly Date: Apr 16, 2008 15:31
> Anything that is "wrong" is the work of the devil.
>
> HTH.
>
Off the cuff..my retort would be perhaps anything 'hopeless' is the work of
the devil.
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Apr 16, 2008 22:28
On Apr 16, 6:31 pm, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> Anything that is "wrong" is the work of the devil.
>
>> HTH.
>
> Off the cuff..my retort would be perhaps anything 'hopeless' is the work of
> the devil.
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Apr 17, 2008 23:12
On Apr 16, 4:52 am, Angus Rodgers bigfoot.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:40:22 +0100, I wrote:
>>[...] government by
>>merely memetic moral norms? (The latter is the "heavily loaded"
>>aspect of memetics in general that most concerns me.)
>
> To be just a little clearer about this (I know I've barely even
> started to be clear about it): in my first article in this thread,
> I used the phrase "social norms". This fails to convey the moral
> aspect, so in my reply to you I changed it to "moral norms". But
> this wrongly suggests that I mean only rules which are explicitly
> moralistic. I won't try to clarify this any further; I'll just
> leave it confused as it is, reflecting my own present state of
> confusion. (It definitely can be clarified, but in general I don't
> think it's worth struggling to make one's words completely clear
> unless and until a real misunderstanding arises, in the course of
> a real conversation.)
>
> --
> Angus Rodgers ...
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