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> The people who know about death, apart from our local priests (in their
> small way) etc, are natural shamans, as you know, and others who partake
> in altered states of consciousness through psychedelics. A good book on
> death experiences is by Stan Grof. Stan Grof also uses hyperventilation
> to trigger death experiences. A death experience if completed and not
> truncated is profoundly healing. Death experiences from altered states
> are typically catastrophic and painful, but switch midstream to a
> resolution and epiphany. I've had some encounter with this. Losing ones
> breath and dying are common experiences, but the range of experiences is
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> The people who know about death, apart from our local priests (in their
> small way) etc, are natural shamans, as you know, and others who partake
> in altered states of consciousness through psychedelics. A good book on
> death experiences is by Stan Grof. Stan Grof also uses hyperventilation to
> trigger death experiences. A death experience if completed and not
> truncated is profoundly healing. Death experiences from altered states are
> typically catastrophic and painful, but switch midstream to a resolution
> and epiphany. I've had some encounter with this. Losing ones breath and
> dying are common experiences, but the range...

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> The people who know about death, apart from our local priests (in their
> small way) etc, are natural shamans, as you know, and others who partake
> in altered states of consciousness through psychedelics. A good book on
> death experiences is by Stan Grof. Stan Grof also uses hyperventilation
> to trigger death experiences. A death experience if completed and not
> truncated is profoundly healing. Death experiences from altered states
> are typically catastrophic and painful, but switch midstream to a
> resolution and epiphany. I've had some encounter with this. Losing ones
> breath and dying are common experiences, but the range of experiences is
> large and nearly always 'cosmic'. That's why its not advisable to do it
> in your own or you might panic. There's loads of information on this. I
> used to run workshops myself.
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> Panic and death experiences are seen as illnesses by psychiatry so don't
> go anywhere near those people. ...

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>> The people who know about death, apart from our local priests (in their
>> small way) etc, are natural shamans, as you know, and others who partake
>> in altered states of consciousness through psychedelics. A good book on
>> death experiences is by Stan Grof. Stan Grof also uses hyperventilation to
>> trigger death experiences. A death experience if completed and not
>> truncated is profoundly healing. Death experiences from altered states are
>> typically catastrophic and painful, but switch midstream to a resolution
>> and epiphany. I've had some encounter with this. Losing ones breath and
>> dying are common experiences, but the range of experiences is large and ...

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>> small way) etc, are natural shamans, as you know, and others who partake
>> in altered states of consciousness through psychedelics. A good book on
>> death experiences is by Stan Grof. Stan Grof also uses hyperventilation
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>>> The people who know about death, apart from our local priests (in their
>>> small way) etc, are natural shamans, as you know, and others who partake
>>> in altered states of consciousness through psychedelics. A good book on
>>> death experiences is by Stan Grof. Stan Grof also uses hyperventilation ...