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Author: Sound of TrumpetSound of Trumpet Date: Sep 4, 2007 18:16
http://www.thingsrevealed.net/darwin.htm
On
The Origin of Species
By Means of Natural Selection,
Or The
Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle
For Life
Charles Darwin
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The Darwinian Thesis
In 1859 Charles Darwin published his pivotal work On the Origin of the
Species. Humanism had finally found an axis for a world wide
revolution. The search for a naturalistic explanation for the
existence...
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Author: *Anarcissie**Anarcissie* Date: Sep 4, 2007 18:29
Once again we observe the inability of certain
religious believers to distinguish between faith
and science.
On Sep 4, 9:16 pm, Sound of Trumpet mailcan.com>
wrote:
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Author: SeanSean Date: Sep 4, 2007 20:05
> Once again we observe the inability of certain
> religious believers to distinguish between faith
> and science.
>
Alfred Russel Wallace OM, FRS (8 January 1823 - 7 November 1913) was a
British naturalist, explorer, geographer, anthropologist and biologist.
He did extensive fieldwork first in the Amazon River basin, and then in the
Malay Archipelago, where he identified the Wallace line dividing the fauna
of Australia from that of Asia. He is best known for independently proposing
a theory of natural selection which prompted Charles Darwin to publish his
own more developed and researched theory sooner than intended. Wallace was
also one of the leading evolutionary thinkers of the 19th century who made a
number of other contributions to the development of evolutionary theory,
including the concept of warning colouration in animals, and the Wallace
effect. He was also considered the 19th century's leading expert on the
geographical distribution of animal species and is sometimes called the
"father of biogeography".[1]
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Author: Steven J.Steven J. Date: Sep 4, 2007 20:30
On Sep 4, 8:16 pm, Sound of Trumpet mailcan.com>
wrote:-- [massive snip of prefatory material]
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> Darwin and the Fossil Record
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> Scientific theories are judged by their predictive power. One of the
> central predictions of evolution is that descent with modification in
> organisms occurs in the finely graded variations. This should have
> been observed at some point in the contemporary world, but for obvious
> reasons Darwin spent a great deal of time explaining why he believed
> that intermediates became extinct through competition for domination
> of a biological niche. Whether it is valid to argue that no family
> line could simultaneously survive at any place in the entire natural
> world is questionable; however, Darwin felt compelled to argue most
> strenuously in explanation of the lack of fossil evidence for
> intermediates. As he stated in his summary chapter:
> ...
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Author: James A. DonaldJames A. Donald Date: Sep 4, 2007 22:13
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:05:42 +1000, "Sean" blah.com> wrote:> Shortly afterwards Wallace became a spiritualist. At about the same time he
> began to maintain that natural selection cannot account for mathematical,
> artistic, or musical genius, as well as metaphysical musings, and wit and
> humour. He eventually said that something in "the unseen universe of Spirit"
> had interceded at least three times in history: The first was the creation
> of life from inorganic matter. The second was the introduction of
> consciousness in the higher animals, and the third was the generation of the
> higher mental faculties in mankind.
There is obvious continuity between humans and apes, and between
higher and lower animals. Chimpanzees are more like dumb savages than
smart animals, octopi often display apelike intelligence, and hunting
spiders often display almost mammalian levels of intelligence.
> He also believed that the raison d'?e
> of the universe was the development of the human spirit.[77] These views
> greatly disturbed Darwin, who argued that spiritual appeals were not
> necessary and that sexual selection could easily explain apparently
> non-adaptive mental phenomena.
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Author: Gene Ward SmithGene Ward Smith Date: Sep 4, 2007 22:17
James A. Donald echeque.com> wrote in
news:veesd3pslvukqh95s2fspa6grpq6bvm20c@4ax.com:
> Chimpanzees are more like dumb savages than
> smart animals, octopi often display apelike intelligence, and hunting
> spiders often display almost mammalian levels of intelligence.
>
This would be more interesting if any of these statements were true.
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Author: SeanSean Date: Sep 4, 2007 22:31
"James A. Donald" echeque.com> wrote in message
news:veesd3pslvukqh95s2fspa6grpq6bvm20c@4ax.com...> On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:05:42 +1000, "Sean" blah.com> wrote:>> Shortly afterwards Wallace became a spiritualist. At about the same time
>> he
>> began to maintain that natural selection cannot account for mathematical,
>> artistic, or musical genius, as well as metaphysical musings, and wit and
>> humour. He eventually said that something in "the unseen universe of
>> Spirit"
>> had interceded at least three times in history: The first was the
>> creation
>> of life from inorganic matter. The second was the introduction of
>> consciousness in the higher animals, and the third was the generation of
>> the
>> higher mental faculties in mankind.
>
> There is obvious continuity between humans and apes, and between
> higher and lower animals. Chimpanzees are more like dumb savages than
> smart animals, octopi often display apelike intelligence, and hunting
> spiders often display almost mammalian levels of intelligence. ...
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Author: *Anarcissie**Anarcissie* Date: Sep 5, 2007 05:16
On Sep 5, 1:31 am, "Sean" blah.com> wrote:> "James A. Donald" echeque.com> wrote in messagenews:veesd3pslvukqh95s2fspa6grpq6bvm20c@4ax.com...
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>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:05:42 +1000, "Sean" blah.com> wrote:>>> Shortly afterwards Wallace became a spiritualist. At about the same time
>>> he
>>> began to maintain that natural selection cannot account for mathematical,
>>> artistic, or musical genius, as well as metaphysical musings, and wit and
>>> humour. He eventually said that something in "the unseen universe of
>>> Spirit"
>>> had interceded at least three times in history: The first was the
>>> creation
>>> of life from inorganic matter. The second was the introduction of
>>> consciousness in the higher animals, and the third was the generation of
>>> the
>>> higher mental faculties in mankind.
>
>> There is obvious continuity between humans and apes, and between ...
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Author: *Anarcissie**Anarcissie* Date: Sep 5, 2007 05:21
On Sep 5, 1:31 am, "Sean" blah.com> wrote:> "James A. Donald" echeque.com> wrote in messagenews:veesd3pslvukqh95s2fspa6grpq6bvm20c@4ax.com...
>
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>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:05:42 +1000, "Sean" blah.com> wrote:>>> Shortly afterwards Wallace became a spiritualist. At about the same time
>>> he
>>> began to maintain that natural selection cannot account for mathematical,
>>> artistic, or musical genius, as well as metaphysical musings, and wit and
>>> humour. He eventually said that something in "the unseen universe of
>>> Spirit"
>>> had interceded at least three times in history: The first was the
>>> creation
>>> of life from inorganic matter. The second was the introduction of
>>> consciousness in the higher animals, and the third was the generation of
>>> the
>>> higher mental faculties in mankind.
>
>> There is obvious continuity between humans and apes, and between ...
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Author: ErrolErrol Date: Sep 5, 2007 06:03
On Sep 5, 7:13 am, James A. Donald echeque.com> wrote:>
> Darwin conjectured that we evolved the capacity for poetry and dance
> to impress members of the opposite sex.
>
That explains why I don't get enough sex. I hate poetry and dancing.
This evolution malarky makes sense now.
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