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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Dec 16, 2006 10:33
- Can't always be dreaming
It would not make sense to say that my whole life is a dream. If I were
dreaming all the time, then I would have no concept of a dream: I would
have nothing with which to contrast dreaming since I would have no
concept of being awake. We can only make sense of the idea of a forged
banknote when genuine banknotes exist with which to compare it;
similarly the idea of a dream only makes sense when we can compare it
to waking life.
This is true, but it does not destroy the sceptic's position. What the
sceptic is arguing is not that we might be dreaming all the time, but
rather that at any one moment we cannot know for certain whether or not
we are actually dreaming.
PHILOSOPHY: THE BASICS
Nigel Warburton
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0415146941/
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Author: a_frienda_friend Date: Dec 16, 2006 12:57
Immortalist wrote:
> - Can't always be dreaming
>
> It would not make sense to say that my whole life is a dream. If I were
> dreaming all the time, then I would have no concept of a dream: I would
> have nothing with which to contrast dreaming since I would have no
> concept of being awake. We can only make sense of the idea of a forged
> banknote when genuine banknotes exist with which to compare it;
> similarly the idea of a dream only makes sense when we can compare it
> to waking life.
>
> This is true, but it does not destroy the sceptic's position. What the
> sceptic is arguing is not that we might be dreaming all the time, but
> rather that at any one moment we cannot know for certain whether or not
> we are actually dreaming.
>
> PHILOSOPHY: THE BASICS
> Nigel Warburton
> http://www...
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Author: WordsmithWordsmith Date: Dec 16, 2006 13:11
On Dec 16, 1:57 pm, "a_friend" hotmail.com> wrote:> Immortalist wrote:
>> - Can't always be dreaming
>
>> It would not make sense to say that my whole life is a dream. If I were
>> dreaming all the time, then I would have no concept of a dream: I would
>> have nothing with which to contrast dreaming since I would have no
>> concept of being awake. We can only make sense of the idea of a forged
>> banknote when genuine banknotes exist with which to compare it;
>> similarly the idea of a dream only makes sense when we can compare it
>> to waking life.
>
>> This is true, but it does not destroy the sceptic's position. What the
>> sceptic is arguing is not that we might be dreaming all the time, but
>> rather that at any one moment we cannot know for certain whether or not
>> we are actually dreaming.
>
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Author: WordsmithWordsmith Date: Dec 16, 2006 13:10
On Dec 16, 1:57 pm, "a_friend" hotmail.com> wrote:> Immortalist wrote:
>> - Can't always be dreaming
>
>> It would not make sense to say that my whole life is a dream. If I were
>> dreaming all the time, then I would have no concept of a dream: I would
>> have nothing with which to contrast dreaming since I would have no
>> concept of being awake. We can only make sense of the idea of a forged
>> banknote when genuine banknotes exist with which to compare it;
>> similarly the idea of a dream only makes sense when we can compare it
>> to waking life.
>
>> This is true, but it does not destroy the sceptic's position. What the
>> sceptic is arguing is not that we might be dreaming all the time, but
>> rather that at any one moment we cannot know for certain whether or not
>> we are actually dreaming.
>
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: Dec 16, 2006 17:29
On 16 Dec 2006 13:11:14 -0800, "Wordsmith" rocketmail.com> wrote:
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>On Dec 16, 1:57 pm, "a_friend" hotmail.com> wrote:>> Immortalist wrote:
>>> - Can't always be dreaming
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>>> It would not make sense to say that my whole life is a dream. If I were...
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Author: Daniel T.Daniel T. Date: Dec 16, 2006 19:37
Immortalist wrote:
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> - Can't always be dreaming
>
> It would not make sense to say that my whole life is a dream. If I were
> dreaming all the time, then I would have no concept of a dream: I would
> have nothing with which to contrast dreaming since I would have no
> concept of being awake. We can only make sense of the idea of a forged
> banknote when genuine banknotes exist with which to compare it;
> similarly the idea of a dream only makes sense when we can compare it
> to waking life.
>
> This is true, but it does not destroy the sceptic's position. What the
> sceptic is arguing is not that we might be dreaming all the time, but
> rather that at any one moment we cannot know for certain whether or not
> we are actually dreaming.
I can't help but wonder who the sceptic thinks he's talking to when he
thinks he is making such an argument. Given his position, he has no
reason to reason, so no one can reason with him.
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Author: SammybabySammybaby Date: Dec 17, 2006 06:21
Perhaps you are what you would now consider an alien life form. What
you think of now as your life is actually a drug induced dream state
that seems long but is actually not. I think a sceptic or a hindu can
argue that the whole thing is a dream and still mean something. I have
had dreams within dreams and this does not take away from the otherness
of waking reality, nor might it take away from a hypothetical waking up
from THIS.
Immortalist wrote:
> - Can't always be dreaming
>
> It would not make sense to say that my whole life is a dream. If I were
> dreaming all the time, then I would have no concept of a dream: I would
> have nothing with which to contrast dreaming since I would have no
> concept of being awake. We can only make sense of the idea of a forged
> banknote when genuine banknotes exist with which to compare it;
> similarly the idea of a dream only makes sense when we can compare it
> to waking life.
>
> This is true, but it does not destroy the sceptic's position. What the
> sceptic is arguing is not that we might be dreaming all the time, but ...
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Dec 19, 2006 11:07
a_friend wrote:
> Immortalist wrote:
>> - Can't always be dreaming
>>
>> It would not make sense to say that my whole life is a dream. If I were
>> dreaming all the time, then I would have no concept of a dream: I would
>> have nothing with which to contrast dreaming since I would have no
>> concept of being awake. We can only make sense of the idea of a forged
>> banknote when genuine banknotes exist with which to compare it;
>> similarly the idea of a dream only makes sense when we can compare it
>> to waking life.
>>
>> This is true, but it does not destroy the sceptic's position. What the
>> sceptic is arguing is not that we might be dreaming all the time, but
>> rather that at any one moment we cannot know for certain whether or not
>> we are actually dreaming.
>>
>> PHILOSOPHY: THE BASICS
>> Nigel Warburton
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0415146941/ ...
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Dec 19, 2006 11:10
Daniel T. wrote:
> Immortalist wrote:
>>
>> - Can't always be dreaming
>>
>> It would not make sense to say that my whole life is a dream. If I were
>> dreaming all the time, then I would have no concept of a dream: I would
>> have nothing with which to contrast dreaming since I would have no
>> concept of being awake. We can only make sense of the idea of a forged
>> banknote when genuine banknotes exist with which to compare it;
>> similarly the idea of a dream only makes sense when we can compare it
>> to waking life.
>>
>> This is true, but it does not destroy the sceptic's position. What the
>> sceptic is arguing is not that we might be dreaming all the time, but
>> rather that at any one moment we cannot know for certain whether or not
>> we are actually dreaming.
>
> I can't help but wonder who the sceptic thinks he's talking to when he
> thinks he is making such an argument. Given his position, he has no ...
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Dec 19, 2006 11:13
Sammybaby wrote:
> Perhaps you are what you would now consider an alien life form. What
> you think of now as your life is actually a drug induced dream state
> that seems long but is actually not. I think a sceptic or a hindu can
> argue that the whole thing is a dream and still mean something. I have
> had dreams within dreams and this does not take away from the otherness
> of waking reality, nor might it take away from a hypothetical waking up
> from THIS.
What if the same parts of the brain active during a dream or memory are
the same parts that are active when experiencing sensory perceptions of
the world.
But we can only take our next breath and navigate through this group of
experience, by default, and this dream theory doesn't interfere with
eating, fucking and reproducing the species.
> Immortalist wrote:
>> - Can't always be dreaming
>>
>> It would not make sense to say that my whole life is a dream. If I were
>> dreaming all the time, then I would have no concept of a dream: I...
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