Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Sep 19, 2008 07:14
On Sep 19, 9:26Â am, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:22:01 -0700, turtoni wrote:
>> Without "language" there is no "consciousness".
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>> The more sophisticated the "language" the more "consciousness".
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> Interesting.
>
> My new position here is: Humans always had language, if language can be
> extended to encompass a system of communicating abstractions, like
> 'feelings', distant events and objects.
Agreed.
> The very interesting issue you raise here is the element of
> 'sophistication' being tied to the quality of 'conscious'.
>
> I can see how this is not true at all. Of course, the definition of being
> "more conscious" would have to be settled first.
Is an ant "conscious" ? Is a dog "conscious"?
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