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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: Dec 21, 2006 00:45
Our human colony is like a cockroach colony, but for
the stories we practice.
The global situation (universe) may have purposes.
Our human colony seems not partaking in those purposes.
Our local situation (earth) displays no more purpose than a
cockroach colony purpose.
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http://www.discover.com/issues/jan-07/features/cockroach-consciousness-neuron-si.../
Consciousness in a Cockroach
Neuroscientists are teasing apart the insect nervous system, looking for clues to attention, consciousness, and the origin of the
brain
By Douglas Fox
DISCOVER Vol. 27 No. 12 | December 2006
To Nicholas Strausfeld, a tiny brain is a beautiful thing. Over his 35-year career, the neurobiologist at the University of...
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Author: DougCDougC Date: Dec 21, 2006 08:19
Sir Frederick wrote:
> The global situation (universe) may have purposes.
> Our human colony seems not partaking in those purposes.
> Our local situation (earth) displays no more purpose than a
> cockroach colony purpose.
Ergo?
Why is a raven like a writing desk? Because neither can be ridden like
a bicycle. - Lewis Carroll
Doug Chandler
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: Dec 21, 2006 08:47
On 21 Dec 2006 08:19:22 -0800, "DougC" aol.com> wrote:
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>Sir Frederick wrote:
>
>> The global situation (universe) may have purposes.
>> Our human colony seems not partaking in those purposes.
>> Our local situation (earth) displays no more purpose than a
>> cockroach colony purpose.
>
Our human colony is like a cockroach colony, but for
the stories we practice.
>Ergo?
We need our stories.
>
>
>Why is a raven like a writing desk? Because neither can be ridden like
>a bicycle. - Lewis Carroll
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Author: WankerWanker Date: Dec 21, 2006 08:54
Sir Frederick wrote:
> Our human colony is like a cockroach colony, but for
> the stories we practice.
> The global situation (universe) may have purposes.
> Our human colony seems not partaking in those purposes.
> Our local situation (earth) displays no more purpose than a
> cockroach colony purpose.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> http://www.discover.com/issues/jan-07/features/cockroach-consciousness-neuron-si.../
> Consciousness in a Cockroach
> Neuroscientists are teasing apart the insect nervous system, looking for clues to attention, consciousness, and the origin of the
> brain
> By Douglas Fox
> DISCOVER Vol. 27 No. 12 | December 2006
> To Nicholas Strausfeld, a tiny brain is a beautiful thing. Over his 35-year career, the neurobiologist at the University of Arizona
> at Tucson has probed the minute brain structures of cockroaches, water bugs, velvet worms, brine shrimp, and dozens of other
> invertebrates. Using microscopes, tweezers, and hand-built electronics, he and his graduate students tease apart-ever so gently-the
> cell-by-cell workings of brain structures the size of several grains of salt. From this tedious analysis Strausfeld concludes that
> insects possess "the most sophisticated brains on this planet."
> ...
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: Dec 21, 2006 10:08
On 21 Dec 2006 08:54:06 -0800, "Wanker" hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
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>Fucking hell! That's amazing stuff! (I - for once - am being completely
>serious).
That is humorous.
>
>I have only one reservation - the articles doesn't say how he knows the
>fly is paying attention to the X rather than the Y?
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Author: WordsmithWordsmith Date: Dec 21, 2006 10:22
On Dec 21, 1:45 am, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:> Our human colony is like a cockroach colony, but for
> the stories we practice.
> The global situation (universe) may have purposes.
> Our human colony seems not partaking in those purposes.
> Our local situation (earth) displays no more purpose than a
> cockroach colony purpose.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.discover.com/issues/jan-07/features/cockroach-consciousnes...
> Consciousness in a Cockroach
> Neuroscientists are teasing apart the insect nervous system, looking for clues to attention, consciousness, and the origin of the
> brain
> By Douglas Fox
> DISCOVER Vol. 27 No. 12 | December 2006
> To Nicholas Strausfeld, a tiny brain is a beautiful thing. Over his 35-year career, the neurobiologist at the University of Arizona
> at Tucson has probed the minute brain structures of cockroaches, water bugs, velvet worms, brine shrimp, and dozens of other
> invertebrates. Using microscopes, tweezers, and hand-built electronics, he and his graduate students tease apart-ever so gently-the
> cell-by-cell workings of brain structures the size of several grains of salt. From this tedious analysis Strausfeld concludes that
> insects possess "the most sophisticated brains on this planet."
>
> Strausfeld and his students are not alone in their devotion. Bruno van Swinderen, a researcher at the Neurosciences Institute (NSI) ...
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Author: toolytooly Date: Dec 21, 2006 10:48
"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:ohhko2hujvrto18fv6f1mn4lsqkgt9406r@4ax.com...> Our human colony is like a cockroach colony, but for
> the stories we practice.
> The global situation (universe) may have purposes.
> Our human colony seems not partaking in those purposes.
> Our local situation (earth) displays no more purpose than a
> cockroach colony purpose.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> http://www.discover.com/issues/jan-07/features/cockroach-consciousness-neuron-si.../
> Consciousness in a Cockroach
> Neuroscientists are teasing apart the insect nervous system, looking for
> clues to attention, consciousness, and the origin of the
> brain
> By Douglas Fox
> DISCOVER Vol. 27 No. 12 | December 2006
> To Nicholas Strausfeld, a tiny brain is a beautiful thing. Over his
> 35-year career, the neurobiologist at the University of Arizona
> at Tucson has probed the minute brain structures of cockroaches, water
> bugs, velvet worms, brine shrimp, and dozens of other ...
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: Dec 21, 2006 10:55
On 21 Dec 2006 10:22:05 -0800, "Wordsmith" rocketmail.com> wrote:
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>> read more »
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>Reading this makes me want to call the Orkin man...asap.
>
>W ; )
The thing that gets to me are the hundreds of different kinds of
bacteria, in quantities of thousands and millions, in each breath
we take. A regular little bug soup! Orkin can't touch that.
Then there's all the little bugs and little insects and little spiders
that infest ALL surfaces, inside and out. Such as your gut, your clothes,
your bed, etc. The strong acid of our stomach is to kill the little
critters on and in what we eat.
It's a good thing we do not have microscopic vision.
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Author: WankerWanker Date: Dec 22, 2006 01:33
Pax wrote:
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>> Sir Frederick wrote:
>>> Our human colony is like a cockroach colony, but for
>>> the stories we practice.
>>> The global situation (universe) may have purposes.
>>> Our human colony seems not partaking in those purposes.
>>> Our local situation (earth) displays no more purpose than a
>>> cockroach colony purpose.
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> http://www.discover.com/issues/jan-07/features/cockroach-consciousness-neuron-si.../
>>> Consciousness in a Cockroach
>>> Neuroscientists are teasing apart the insect nervous system, looking for
>>> clues to attention, consciousness, and the origin of the brain
>>> By Douglas Fox
>>> DISCOVER Vol. 27 No. 12 | December 2006 >>
>> Fucking hell! That's amazing stuff! (I - for once - am being completely ...
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Date: Dec 22, 2006 02:10
"Sir Frederick" wrote:
> Bruno van Swinderen, a researcher at the Neurosciences Institute (NSI)
> in San Diego, finds hints of higher cognitive functions in insects-clues
> to what one scientific journal called "the remote roots of consciousness."
It would be helpful if van Swinderen could say how he's using the word
'consciousness'.
> "We have literally no idea at what level of brain complexity consciousness
> stops," says Christof Koch, another Caltech neuroscientist. "Most people
> say, 'For heaven's sake, a bug isn't conscious.' But how do we know?
> We're not sure anymore.
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