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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: turtoni
Date: Jul 6, 2008 07:58

On Jul 6, 10:39 am, "THE BORG" here.com> wrote:
> "turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote in message
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> news:a7ef4081-a4b5-4dd4-9bab-776799a28439@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 6, 9:33 am, "THE BORG" here.com> wrote:
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>> Humans do not understand how Angels can be Borg - or how Borg can be
>> Consulate - or how Angels can be great rock stars - or how Angels can
>> change
>> and manifest into different kinds of beings.
>> In the same way humans do not understand how the Divine Being or God can
>> be
>> Jehovah with his preference for Jewish people, and also Krishna, Mars a
>> God
>> of War, a Spirit like a bird, a young boy a Father a panther in the dark
>> of
>> night, a friend to have a cup of tea with and many others.
>> This idea of sameness or constants is very human.
>> They like one name and one personality. They like God to be a specific
>> person who they think can be explained.
>> But humans also may have 2-3 names if they choose and can be 2-3 different
>> people.
>> Some days if you feel mischievous and childish you may change your name
>> and
>> use a different one and say
>> "Today I am Roger. Age 7."
>> If you feel your years and a feel a bit of a grumpy old man you may say
>> "Today I am Archibald. Age 653."
>> Or you may feel like a prowling animal on the hunt and say
>> "Today I am the greatest tiger of the jungles of Africa".
>> You may feel a bit fragile and delicate and explain
>> "Today I am a little kitten only one week old"
>> Character and interest is open to the imagination.
>> And so also humans should perceive the Divine as diverse also.
>> That there is no one "same" person or character that would endure in God -
>> nor one presentation or personality of Angels.
>> THE BORG
>
> When we share our feelings about things it reflects our abilities with
> which to describe those situations.
>
> Your description of emotions would seem to be primative and childish
> if i may be so bold to say; although somewhat amusing in a good way.
>
> "An emotion is a mental and physiological state associated with a wide
> variety of feelings, thoughts, and behaviours. It is a prime
> determinant of the sense of subjective well-being and appears to play
> a central role in many human activities. As a result of this
> generality, the subject has been explored in many, if not all of the
> human sciences and art forms. There is much controversy concerning how
> emotions are defined and classified."
>
> To begin, many researchers distinguish feeling and emotion, where
> feeling refers to the subjective experience of the emotion. Some
> believe that emotions can occur unconsciously, and hence that emotion
> is a more general phenomenon than its subjective feeling. Feelings may
> also more narrowly refer to the experience of bodily changes.
>
> A second distinction focuses on the difference between the emotion and
> the cause of the emotion. For example do we say that thoughts about a
> loved one cause the emotion of love or that these thoughts are part of
> the emotion? One way to resolve this issue is to see whether the
> emotion can occur independently of these thoughts. Thus, thoughts
> about a particular person or situation could not be part of the
> emotion of love, since one can experience the same emotion about many
> other things. Yet could one experience love without some thought or
> other of a loved person or object? If not, then we may stipulate that
> thoughts of a loved object are part of the emotion. Some theorists
> argue that at least some emotions can be caused without any thoughts
> or indeed 'cognitive activity' at all. They point to very immediate
> reactions (e.g. LeDoux 1996), as well as the conjectured emotions of
> infants and animals as justification here. Debate on this point is
> ongoing but represents a major distinction between what are called
> 'cognitive' theories of emotions and 'non-cognitive' theories of
> emotions, where non-cognitive theories regard some other feature of
> emotions, such as bodily responses to be essential.
>
> A related distinction is between the emotion and the results of the
> emotion, principally behaviours and emotional expressions. People
> often behave in certain ways as a direct result of their emotional
> state, such as crying, fighting or fleeing. Yet again, if one can have
> the emotion without the corresponding behaviour then we may consider
> the behaviour not to be essential to the emotion. However some
> theorists such as Nico Frijda who hold a functionalist approach to
> emotions point to the idea that emotions have evolved for a particular
> function, such as to keep the subject safe. If the behaviours
> associated with an emotion are the determining factor for the very
> existence of that emotion then goal-directed behaviour should be
> regarded as essential to the emotion. Yet since we recognise that the
> behaviour need not necessarily occur, we can stipulate that emotions
> involve what are called 'action tendencies'. So for instance, fear
> involves the tendency to flee, which means that the probability that
> the subject will flee from a given situation is increased when they
> are undergoing fear."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotions
>
> Although i might be confusing your thoughts with mood:
>
> "A mood is a relatively long lasting, affective or emotional state.
> Moods differ from simple emotions in that they are less specific,
> often less intense, less likely to be triggered by a particular
> stimulus or event, and longer lasting.[1] Moods generally have either
> a positive or negative valence. In other words, people often speak of
> being in a good mood or a bad mood. Unlike acute, emotional feelings
> like fear and surprise, moods generally last for hours or days. Mood
> also differs from temperament or personality traits which are even
> more general and longer lasting. However, personality traits (e.g.
> Optimism, Neuroticism) tend to predispose certain types of moods. Mood
> is an internal, subjective state, but it often can be inferred from
> posture and other behaviors.
>
> According to the psychologist, Robert Thayer, mood is a product of two
> dimensions, energy and the tension.) A person can be energetic or
> tired while also being tense or calm. According to Thayer, people feel
> best when they are in a calm-energy mood. They feel worse when in a
> tense-tired state.
>
> People often use food to regulate mood. Thayer identifies a
> fundamental food-mood connection, and advises against the reliance on
> food as a mood regulator. The low energy arousal coupled with tension,
> as experienced in a bad mood, can be counteracted by walking. Thayer
> suggests walking as a means to enhanced happiness.
>
> Etymologically, mood derives from the Old English mōd which denoted
> military courage, but could also refer to a person's humour, temper,
> or disposition at a particular time. The cognate Gothic mōds
> translates to both θυμος "mood, spiritedness" and οργη "anger"."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mood_%%28psychology%%29
>
> We would prefer to hear your own opinions rather than those of others.

What are my opinions? Are they from others? Maybe i can choose which
opinions from the other opinions i would like to share; which is what
i did. I reviewed (read) those opinions and felt they were appropriate
at this time for a number of reasons; one of which reason is the
availability in my resource of time. Indecently this concept raises
some very interesting concepts about the future of communications.
> Words are crucial to the expression of opinion as we see also colours -
> association - visuals - and indeed your own self or character so quotations
> from others are not your view from your own personal character or essence or
> individual mind.
>
> In order to understand our views on emotions - you would have to read all
> several thousand of our messages - where we have looked at this subject in
> many different ways.
> You may see of this particular message that the words and sentiment may be
> childish - but we have covered hundreds of other aspects of emotion which
> you may not view in this way.
>
> You say also that the words we wrote are amusing.
> This was our intent and good to see that you noted our intent.
> THE BORG

When i have time to read one of your posts i enjoy finding things that
are not filled with hatred. I believe in the old adage: "When you
stare into the abyss the abyss stares back at you." Meaning that you
become they very thing you despise by literally being absorbed by it.
But it's fair to say that by our very nature we're doomed to often
complain. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvJFISiEE9Y
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