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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: PeterBP
Date: Jul 25, 2008 19:41

Rod Speed gmail.com> wrote:
> PeterBP jose.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed gmail.com> wrote
>>> PeterBP jose.com> wrote
>>>> ZerkonX X.net> wrote
>>>>> PeterBP wrote
>
>>>>>>> Is the common good really so hard a concept to grasp?
>
>>>>>> No, but as Aristotle said, an educated man can entertain an idea
>>>>>> without believeing in it; the same goes for the "commong good" as
>>>>>> it goes for Snoopy and The Buddy Birds.
>
>>>>>> ... it is used to excuse senseless expansion of scope and
>>>>>> powers of government, even for things that only a madman
>>>>>> would claim to be "good", much less a "common good".
>
>>>>> Concept as ideal no, concept as a design for action, yes.
>>>>> Like so many other things. 'Good' itself being one, 'bad' another.
>
>>>>> In the case of government the "senseless expansion
>>>>> of scope and powers" isn't completely true.
>
>>>> Little in real life is completely true in the way logical statements
>>>> are, but this is beside my point, which is that government today
>>>> has grown to point where it damages more than it mends,
>
>>> Nope. Most obviously with the avoidence of full depressions.
>
>> Define "full depression".
>
> Its a term thats never been formally defined. Anything like the great depressi
on will do.

No. (Recognize this argumentative style? I'm sure it has you convinced.)
>
>> Additionally, you need to accurately outline the causes of these depressions
,
>
> Not even possible. We havent even worked out what caused the great depression.

You may not have, but that's not saying much.
>
>> once you have properly defined them.
>
> How odd that no one else has even attempted to do that.

Oh, they have. They also have the grey matter for it, an area where you
may be deficient.
>
>> You may also want to tell use what a "partial depression", as implied by you
r claim, is.
>
> That isnt implied at all.

He doesn't understand his own arguments.

Take a recommandation, kiddo - don't play chess for money.

(Or play against me.)
>
>>>> and that the excuse of "working toward the common good"
>>>> is a tool that enables such rampant growth.
>
>>> It hasnt been that rampant in say the last 50 years.
>
>> I disagree.
>
> Your problem.

No, because tearing around trolls with no idea of facts of history isn't
a problem, more like a pastime.
>
>> Economically, it has been relatively mild, but not from the perspecitive of
civil rights.
>
> Thats not government, thats law.

He doesn't understand government.
> And it clearly doesnt damage more than it mends in that particular area anyway
.

He has no idea what he is talking about.

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