> Linda Lee wrote:

>> On Apr 24, 1:38 am, DanielSan gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Linda Lee wrote:

>>>> On Apr 24, 1:24 am, DanielSan gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>> Linda Lee wrote:

>>>>>> On Apr 24, 12:48 am, DanielSan gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> Linda Lee wrote:

>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 12:43 am, DanielSan gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Linda Lee wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 11:58 pm, DanielSan gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> Suzanne wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> "DanielSan" gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>news:zJqdnUzTz8iH4ZDVnZ2dnUVZ_t6onZ2d@comcast.com...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terry Cross wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 9:57 pm, "Mike Painter" sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suzanne wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mike Painter" sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:TATOj.1146$ix6.582@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suzanne wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am posting in a newsgroup where I am accepted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm also posting in a thread that obviously has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian topic, which you don't have to read at all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since the subject matter should be determined by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you, the reader before you even open it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are posting in four news group and the only support you get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comes from a bigot (read what he says about being Jewish) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somebody who does not agree with what your god told you.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just hear a voice and can only deny your mental problems by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claiming that "real" schizophrenics hear more than one voice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I was repeating what was said to me, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replying that I did not hear those kinds of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voices that the other poster was claiming that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> schizophrenics hear. Since I've not heard those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voices, there is no way that the question was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valid one.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which is exactly what they say and what he said used the plural of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both words, it did not imply that all hear multiple voices.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When someone hears the voice of Jesus, coming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it is a feeling of joy, and a feeling of hope;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He cheers you up, he tells you things that make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you laugh, he's with you in the middle of things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would otherwise overwhelm a person. He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never violates what Scripture says, so he will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be telling someone to go do something that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is against his word. He gives adventure, He gives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heart-warming experiences where you have helped
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone. He gives insight, explanations, engenders
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trust, teaches you more and more to trust him. He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives assignments and where they lead you don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know, but if you do them, you will usually have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a mountain top experience in what you learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from him. You will find yourself listening to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the word of God when someone is expounding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upon it, and listening for messages that he had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are just for you. He prepares your heart
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ahead of time for things you need to know. He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can tell you what others are thinking some of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the time, if he needs for you to know that. He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can tell you which way to go if you are lost in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something or some place. He will show you a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way of escape if you need one. He provides for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you. He does not shield you from all things,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because some things are good for you to learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or to know. He will teach you the meaning of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his Word, the Scriptures if you will listen to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him about all of it. Sometimes he will just talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to you as in a conversation with a friend. He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will lead you to a particular Bible story and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then expound upon it. You may hear the story
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several times in a row and when you do, that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is confirmation that there is something in that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> story that he wants you to know or figure out,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which will benefit you or people you know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you can share it with. So when you hear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these kinds of things, it is good, and you know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it is from the Lord.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet this voice can't be shown to be real

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It can't be shown to people who are deaf and blind? I guess not, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no surprise that, either

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it can. Just need an interpreter and there is computer software
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out there that can handle that. Speech-to-text software linked with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> text-to-braille software. You speak, the computer outputs braille. No
>>>>>>>>>>>>> third party communication necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, might want to read up on Helen Keller. You can find a dramatic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> depiction of her life in "The Miracle Worker" by Annie Sullivan.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should read up on Helen Keller. When she
>>>>>>>>>>>> found out about Jesus, she told people she already knew
>>>>>>>>>>>> him. She was referring to her life before she was able
>>>>>>>>>>>> to communicate. She added, "I just didn't know his name."

>>>>>>>>>>> I looked for a while for reference to this and just couldn't find it
>>>>>>>>>>> except for second-hand (or third- or fourth-hand) accounts. I would
>>>>>>>>>>> like a better reference for this, if you don't mind.

>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no need for software on a computer for a person
>>>>>>>>>>>> to reach God. He's far more technically advanced than any
>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. You just bow your head, begin talking to him,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and he will hear you from any place in the entire Universe.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You also can hear him if you put your trust in his method
>>>>>>>>>>>> of salvation, which he says is through his Son. And when
>>>>>>>>>>>> and if you do that, you can hear him from any place in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Universe that he is at.

>>>>>>>>>>> Wouldn't that time be better served doing things instead of sitting idly
>>>>>>>>>>> by? Nothing gets done if you're still.

>>>>>>>>>> Ps. 46:10 "Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among
>>>>>>>>>> the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth".
>>>>>>>>>> Isa 30:7 For the Egyptians shall help in vain, and to no purpose:
>>>>>>>>>> therefore have I cried concerning this, Their strength is to sit
>>>>>>>>>> still.
>>>>>>>>>> Isa 30:8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a
>>>>>>>>>> book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever:
>>>>>>>>>> Isa 30:9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children
>>>>>>>>>> that will not hear the law of the LORD:
>>>>>>>>>> Isa 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets,
>>>>>>>>>> Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things,
>>>>>>>>>> prophesy deceits:
>>>>>>>>>> Isa 30:11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause
>>>>>>>>>> the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.

>>>>>>>>> So, it's better to do virtually nothing.
>>>>>>>>> Gotcha.

>>>>>>>> Prayer is not nothing; prayer makes things happen.

>>>>>>> I did not say it was "nothing". I said "virtually nothing". Can you
>>>>>>> show me how prayer makes things happen, though?

>>>>>> How does God work? I wouldn't presume to know. Sometimes God responds
>>>>>> to prayer (no, not every time as we don't control God). I posted here
>>>>>> how God responded to a prayer of mine, and it was denied and various
>>>>>> unconvincing explanations were offered to explain it away to the
>>>>>> atheists' satisfaction, so why should I go into it or any similar
>>>>>> experience again? It doesn't affect me if you remain skeptical; it
>>>>>> only affects you.

>>>>> Doesn't affect me either. I just don't believe it.
>>>>> See, when I do things, I want people to poke holes and find where I'm
>>>>> inconsistent. Criticism is the highest form of flattery, in my book.

>>>> Your book is wrong. Imitation, not criticism, is the highest form of
>>>> flattery.

>>> Perhaps to some, but not to me. Imitation means that you can't think
>>> for yourself. I don't want people like that surrounding me.

>

>>> I repeat what I said: In MY book, criticism is the highest form of flattery.

>

>>>>> If I was surrounded by Yes Men 24/7, I'd never grow.
>>>>> But, if you don't want that, I won't force you into it.

>

>> Okay, let me flatter you. You are acting out of ignorance by remaining
>> an atheist.

>
> Thank you for that.
>
> What, exactly, am I ignorant about? I've read the Bible thrice and keep
> a copy of it by my computer. Can you fill me in on what I'm ignorant about?