Re: * Christ and the Resurrection of the Flesh *
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Re: * Christ and the Resurrection of the Flesh *         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: cactus
Date: Apr 18, 2008 07:18

Terry Cross wrote:
> On Apr 17, 8:25 pm, Frank Mayhar exit.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:38:37 -0700, stoney wrote:
>>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:31:39 -0700, Frank Mayhar exit.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:55:18 -0400, Darrell Stec wrote:
>>>>> Suzanne wrote:
>>>>>> "Steve O" thanks.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:664g13F2ig44qU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> "Linda Lee" juno.com> wrote in message news:7fdae168-
>>>> d223-4597-9533-44d11c839...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> LOL. The sentence was "And "ootsie" is not a word". What illogic
>>>>>>>> you exhibit Liz.
>>>>>>> How on earth does this woman think words are derived? Does she
>>>>>>> imagine that they magically appear in a dictionary without anyone
>>>>>>> ever having used them first?
>>>>>>> I suppose you might, if you also believe that a magical God wrote
>>>>>>> the words of the bible.
>>>>>> "This woman" is known for having researched words. She's a published
>>>>>> author.
>>>>> No she isn't. [...]
>>>>> Her "book" is an eBook and is "published" by an online version of a
>>>>> Vanity Press. In other words, they charge the author. You can find
>>>>> her book at lulu.com.
>>>> Ah. Indeed. No, in that case she is certainly _not_ a "published
>>>> author." In fact, lulu.com is infamous for allowing kooks to self-
>>>> publish their "works" and being "published" via lulu is equivalent to,
>>>> albeit more expensive than,
>>>> And Suzanne, by claiming that LL _is_ a "published author," was being
>>>> dishonest. That is, she was _lying_.
>>> Depends. If one copy of the book was bought (even if it was by the
>>> author) then, technically, it is a true statement, albeit trivally so.
>> Naaah. "Published" implied "published formally, by a publishing
>> company." She's _self_-published, a totally different animal
>> altogether. No one who is self-published can claim to be a "published
>> author," since that carries the connotation that some company thought
>> enough of the work to actually risk their money on it. Which in this
>> case is not true.
>
> This is simply not true. Many professors publish books through the
> local university press without anyone "risking" money on the
> publication - simply because no one expects to make money, there is no
> "risk."
>
>> There's a reason these places are called "vanity
>> presses."
>
> The names things are "called" are extremely poor indicators of truth.
> Cops are called "pigs." The Bible is called "the Good Book." Judges
> are called "your honor." And Supreme court judges are called
> "Justice."

There is more than a grain of truth in most of them. Some are
honorifics and some are slang.
>
> To bring the subject closer to your own problems, "God" is called
> "omniscient." Does that make him so?
>
> Anyone can form a company, and in forming one, can state on the
> corporation papers that the primary business is "publishing." The
> company may have nothing to do with printing or binding books - that
> work can be out-sourced to a printer. "Publish" means to distribute
> information broadly to the general public and that is all that it
> means. That is why a minister reading words from a book at a wedding
> is said to be "publishing the bans of marriage." S/He is simply
> addressing the public.
>
> Those people you complain of "self-publishing" are publishers. That
> is far, far different from vanity publishers.
>
> "Vanity publishing" is a predatory industry that pretends to publish
> but does not. Every writer's how-to booklet will tell you that much
> about the business. It is also called "subsidy publishing." Vanity
> publishing houses are borderline con artists. They print a few copies
> of the book, charge far too much for the work, pretend to try to place
> the book with marketers, often just enough to meet contractual
> obligations, and do not return value for value. That is a sad
> business.
>
> Many a newspaper editor throughout the history of America was self-
> published. Thomas Paine was self-published. In little towns all over
> the country, editors would write stories and commentary in regular
> issues and sell the papers to keep the business going. And nobody
> sneered at them as you do at the ladies.
>
> In the nineteenth and early twentieth century it was common for
> legitimate authors, if they could afford to, to pay the costs of
> publishing their books. Such writers could expect more control of
> their work, greater profits, or both. Self-publishing was not judged
> negatively as it has been more recently. Among the authors taking this
> route to publication was Lewis Carroll, who paid the expenses of
> publishing Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and most of his subsequent
> work. Such authors as Mark Twain, Zane Grey, Upton Sinclair, Carl
> Sandburg, Edgar Rice Burroughs, George Bernard Shaw, Edgar Allan Poe,
> Rudyard Kipling, Henry David Thoreau, Walt Whitman, and Anais Nin also
> resorted to self-publication for some or all of their works. It is
> worth noting, however, that despite the well known names on this list,
> not all of them were successful in their publishing ventures. Mark
> Twain's, for example, led to bankruptcy. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_publishing
>
> But you should know all of that. You are just being cruel and
> sadistic. Such is your nature, and nobody should criticize you - you
> are just being your worthless self. You are being sincere - in your
> mean, destructive, negative, evil way.
>
> TCross
>
>
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