Re: * Christ and the Resurrection of the Flesh *
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Re: * Christ and the Resurrection of the Flesh *         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Terry Cross
Date: Apr 17, 2008 23:55

On Apr 17, 8:25 pm, Frank Mayhar exit.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:38:37 -0700, stoney wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:31:39 -0700, Frank Mayhar exit.com> wrote:
>
>>>On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:55:18 -0400, Darrell Stec wrote:
>>>> Suzanne wrote:
>>>>> "Steve O" thanks.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:664g13F2ig44qU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> "Linda Lee" juno.com> wrote in message news:7fdae168-
>>>d223-4597-9533-44d11c839...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> LOL. The sentence was "And "ootsie" is not a word". What illogic
>>>>>>> you exhibit Liz.
>>>>>> How on earth does this woman think words are derived? Does she
>>>>>> imagine that they magically appear in a dictionary without anyone
>>>>>> ever having used them first?
>>>>>> I suppose you might, if you also believe that a magical God wrote
>>>>>> the words of the bible.
>>>>> "This woman" is known for having researched words. She's a published
>>>>> author.
>>>> No she isn't. [...]
>>>> Her "book" is an eBook and is "published" by an online version of a
>>>> Vanity Press. In other words, they charge the author. You can find
>>>> her book at lulu.com.
>
>>>Ah. Indeed. No, in that case she is certainly _not_ a "published
>>>author." In fact, lulu.com is infamous for allowing kooks to self-
>>>publish their "works" and being "published" via lulu is equivalent to,
>>>albeit more expensive than,
>
>>>And Suzanne, by claiming that LL _is_ a "published author," was being
>>>dishonest. That is, she was _lying_.
>
>> Depends. If one copy of the book was bought (even if it was by the
>> author) then, technically, it is a true statement, albeit trivally so.
>
> Naaah. "Published" implied "published formally, by a publishing
> company." She's _self_-published, a totally different animal
> altogether. No one who is self-published can claim to be a "published
> author," since that carries the connotation that some company thought
> enough of the work to actually risk their money on it. Which in this
> case is not true.

This is simply not true. Many professors publish books through the
local university press without anyone "risking" money on the
publication - simply because no one expects to make money, there is no
"risk."
> There's a reason these places are called "vanity
> presses."

The names things are "called" are extremely poor indicators of truth.
Cops are called "pigs." The Bible is called "the Good Book." Judges
are called "your honor." And Supreme court judges are called
"Justice."

To bring the subject closer to your own problems, "God" is called
"omniscient." Does that make him so?

Anyone can form a company, and in forming one, can state on the
corporation papers that the primary business is "publishing." The
company may have nothing to do with printing or binding books - that
work can be out-sourced to a printer. "Publish" means to distribute
information broadly to the general public and that is all that it
means. That is why a minister reading words from a book at a wedding
is said to be "publishing the bans of marriage." S/He is simply
addressing the public.

Those people you complain of "self-publishing" are publishers. That
is far, far different from vanity publishers.

"Vanity publishing" is a predatory industry that pretends to publish
but does not. Every writer's how-to booklet will tell you that much
about the business. It is also called "subsidy publishing." Vanity
publishing houses are borderline con artists. They print a few copies
of the book, charge far too much for the work, pretend to try to place
the book with marketers, often just enough to meet contractual
obligations, and do not return value for value. That is a sad
business.

Many a newspaper editor throughout the history of America was self-
published. Thomas Paine was self-published. In little towns all over
the country, editors would write stories and commentary in regular
issues and sell the papers to keep the business going. And nobody
sneered at them as you do at the ladies.

In the nineteenth and early twentieth century it was common for
legitimate authors, if they could afford to, to pay the costs of
publishing their books. Such writers could expect more control of
their work, greater profits, or both. Self-publishing was not judged
negatively as it has been more recently. Among the authors taking this
route to publication was Lewis Carroll, who paid the expenses of
publishing Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and most of his subsequent
work. Such authors as Mark Twain, Zane Grey, Upton Sinclair, Carl
Sandburg, Edgar Rice Burroughs, George Bernard Shaw, Edgar Allan Poe,
Rudyard Kipling, Henry David Thoreau, Walt Whitman, and Anais Nin also
resorted to self-publication for some or all of their works. It is
worth noting, however, that despite the well known names on this list,
not all of them were successful in their publishing ventures. Mark
Twain's, for example, led to bankruptcy. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_publishing

But you should know all of that. You are just being cruel and
sadistic. Such is your nature, and nobody should criticize you - you
are just being your worthless self. You are being sincere - in your
mean, destructive, negative, evil way.

TCross
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