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Re: * Christ and the Resurrection of the Flesh *         


Author: Mike Painter
Date: Jan 28, 2008 14:38

Michael Gray wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:44:13 -0600, Free Lunch
> wrote:
>>>
>>> True, that is a part of my case, but not all of it.
>>> The claims made for the biblical Jesus are historically impossible,
>>> as they set up two or more mutually contradictory claims.
>>
>> The fact that the claims are contradictory neither tell us that the
>> claims are unreliable,
>
> Eh?
> Did you phrase that incorrectly?
> It *does* tell us that the "claims" are contradictory!

Perhaps you should explain that if they contradict each other only one can
be true and both can be false.
If this was examined from a scientific viewpoint which tried to show the
book was litterally true, it would be falsified at this point.
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Re: * Christ and the Resurrection of the Flesh *         


Author: Michael Gray
Date: Jan 28, 2008 20:24

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:38:16 -0800, "Mike Painter"
sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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Re: * Christ and the Resurrection of the Flesh *         


Author: Suzanne
Date: Jan 29, 2008 22:31

"Mike Painter" sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Michael Gray wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:44:13 -0600, Free Lunch
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> True, that is a part of my case, but not all of it.
>>>> The claims made for the biblical Jesus are historically impossible,
>>>> as they set up two or more mutually contradictory claims.
>>>
>>> The fact that the claims are contradictory neither tell us that the
>>> claims are unreliable,
>>
>> Eh?
>> Did you phrase that incorrectly?
>> It *does* tell us that the "claims" are contradictory!
>
> Perhaps you should explain that if they contradict each other only one can
> be true and both can be false.
> If this was examined from a scientific viewpoint which tried to show the ...
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Re: * Christ and the Resurrection of the Flesh *         


Author: gudloos
Date: Jan 30, 2008 04:50

On 30 Jan., 07:31, "Suzanne" flash.net> wrote:
> "Mike Painter" sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:6Lsnj.42230$Pv2.22079@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
>
>
>
>> Michael Gray wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:44:13 -0600, Free Lunch
>>> wrote:
>
>>>>> True, that is a part of my case, but not all of it.
>>>>> The claims made for the biblical Jesus are historically impossible,
>>>>> as they set up two or more mutually contradictory claims.
>
>>>> The fact that the claims are contradictory neither tell us that the
>>>> claims are unreliable,
>
>>> Eh?
>>> Did you phrase that incorrectly? ...
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Re: * Christ and the Resurrection of the Flesh *         


Author: Libertarius
Date: Jan 30, 2008 20:34

Free Lunch wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:31:01 -0600, in alt.atheism
> "Suzanne" flash.net> wrote in
> nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>:
>
>>"Mike Painter" sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>news:6Lsnj.42230$Pv2.22079@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
>>
>>>Michael Gray wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:44:13 -0600, Free Lunch
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>True, that is a part of my case, but not all of it.
>>>>>>The claims made for the biblical Jesus are historically impossible,
>>>>>>as they set up two or more mutually contradictory claims.
>>>>>
>>>>>The fact that the claims are contradictory neither tell us that the
>>>>>claims are unreliable,
>>>> ...
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Re: * Christ and the Resurrection of the Flesh *         


Author: Suzanne
Date: Feb 3, 2008 17:15

"Free Lunch" wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:31:01 -0600, in alt.atheism
> "Suzanne" flash.net> wrote in
> nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>:
>>
>>"Mike Painter" sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>news:6Lsnj.42230$Pv2.22079@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
>>> Michael Gray wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:44:13 -0600, Free Lunch
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> True, that is a part of my case, but not all of it.
>>>>>> The claims made for the biblical Jesus are historically impossible,
>>>>>> as they set up two or more mutually contradictory claims.
>>>>>
>>>>> The fact that the claims are contradictory neither tell us that the
>>>>> claims are unreliable,
>>>>
>>>> Eh? ...
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Re: * Christ and the Resurrection of the Flesh *         


Author: Suzanne
Date: Feb 3, 2008 17:21

"Libertarius" wrote in message
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> Free Lunch wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:31:01 -0600, in alt.atheism "Suzanne"
>> flash.net> wrote in
>> nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>:
>>
>>>"Mike Painter" sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>news:6Lsnj.42230$Pv2.22079@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
>>>
>>>>Michael Gray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:44:13 -0600, Free Lunch
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>True, that is a part of my case, but not all of it.
>>>>>>>The claims made for the biblical Jesus are historically impossible,
>>>>>>>as they set up two or more mutually contradictory claims.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The fact that the claims are contradictory neither tell us that the ...
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Re: * Christ and the Resurrection of the Flesh *         


Author: Free Lunch
Date: Feb 3, 2008 17:22

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:21:01 -0600, in alt.atheism
"Suzanne" flash.net> wrote in
nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>:
>
>"Libertarius" wrote in message
>news:47a1445e$0$26043$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>> Free Lunch wrote:
>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:31:01 -0600, in alt.atheism "Suzanne"
>>> flash.net> wrote in
>>> nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>:
>>>
>>>>"Mike Painter" sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:6Lsnj.42230$Pv2.22079@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>
>>>>>Michael Gray wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:44:13 -0600, Free Lunch
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>True, that is a part of my case, but not all of it. ...
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Re: * Christ and the Resurrection of the Flesh *         


Author: Free Lunch
Date: Feb 3, 2008 17:22

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:15:18 -0600, in alt.atheism
"Suzanne" flash.net> wrote in
nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>:
>
>"Free Lunch" wrote in message
>news:3e62q39o01rarme3dd004p49j5o3o9g3bt@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:31:01 -0600, in alt.atheism
>> "Suzanne" flash.net> wrote in
>> nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>:
>>>
>>>"Mike Painter" sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>news:6Lsnj.42230$Pv2.22079@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
>>>> Michael Gray wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:44:13 -0600, Free Lunch
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> True, that is a part of my case, but not all of it.
>>>>>>> The claims made for the biblical Jesus are historically impossible,
>>>>>>> as they set up two or more mutually contradictory claims.
>>>>>> ...
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Re: * Christ and the Resurrection of the Flesh *         


Author: Mike Painter
Date: Feb 3, 2008 19:29

Suzanne wrote:
> You are assuming that I am assuming. But I am not assuming.
> The Holy Spirit confirms to me that the Bible is God's word,
> and that it is true.
>>
> Suzanne

Martin Luther says you are wrong and are damned unless you agree with him.

"I do not admit that my doctrine can be judged by anyone, even the angels.
He who does not receive my doctrine cannot be saved"
-- Martin Luther Werke (Erlangen),XXIX , 217-33, on Maritian, 15.
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