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Author: SannySanny Date: Aug 18, 2008 02:16
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Author: Rod SpeedRod Speed Date: Aug 18, 2008 02:26
Sanny hotmail.com> wrote:
> Solar Concentrators 92%% efficiency developed.
Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.
> These are cheaper than even Coal.
Nope.
> 1,300 degrees Farenheit.is achieved and used by a steam turbine to convert into energy.
And that process is nothing like 92%% overall efficiency.
> Since it is highly efficient very less land is reqyuired to generate the energy.
Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.
> It may become cheapest energy source.
Not a chance. Pity about the fact that the sun isnt always there.
> It may reduce the price of energy
Not a chance.
> and oil dependence.
Nukes do that much better.
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Author: SannySanny Date: Aug 18, 2008 03:42
>> As electric cars will be cheaper than using oil for travel.
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> Not a chance, because of the batterys.
It is difficult at the moment but in 4-5 hours Solar energy will be 3
times cheaper than all other types of energy.
And Electric Engine with 100-200 miles range on electric Charge has
already been made.
You just need fuel cells and charge them in 5 minutes. And you will
never need an Oil Station. Just Charge your car like we charge the
Mobile Batteries from the plug.
Good hopes for Solar Energy.
Bye
Sanny.
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Author: SannySanny Date: Aug 18, 2008 03:44
>> As electric cars will be cheaper than using oil for travel.
> Not a chance, because of the batterys.
It is difficult at the moment but in 4-5 years Solar energy will be 3
times cheaper than all other types of energy.
And Electric Engine with 100-200 miles range on electric Charge has
already been made.
You just need fuel cells and charge them in 5 minutes. And you will
never need an Oil Station. Just Charge your car like we charge the
Mobile Batteries from the plug.
Good hopes for Solar Energy.
Bye
Sanny.
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Author: dlzcdlzc Date: Aug 18, 2008 07:36
Dear Sanny:
On Aug 18, 3:44Â am, Sanny hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> As electric cars will be cheaper than using oil for travel.
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>> Not a chance, because of the batterys.
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> It is difficult at the moment but in 4-5 years Solar energy
> will be 3 times cheaper than all other types of energy.
Only if all the coal and oil disappears, or if "carbon taxes" make
them cost prohibitive.
> And Electric Engine with 100-200 miles range on electric
> Charge has already been made.
But *not* carbon neutral. Manufacturing the batteries take a lot of
power.
> You just need fuel cells and charge them in 5 minutes.
But *not* carbon neutral. Manufacturing the fuel cells take a lot of
power, and they get poisoned quite easily if the fuel and oxygen
sources are not pure.
> And you will never need an Oil Station.
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Author: Antares 531Antares 531 Date: Aug 18, 2008 07:58
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:36:42 -0700 (PDT), dlzc cox.net> wrote:
>Dear Sanny:
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>On Aug 18, 3:44Â am, Sanny hotmail.com> wrote:
(snip)
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>> Good hopes for Solar Energy.
>
>Too many hopes, I'm afraid. But then when there is so much less solar
>than their needs to be... the push needs to be big.
>
>David A. Smith
>
A controlled reliable means for cold hydrogen fusion would solve most
of the world's fuel/energy problems, but how can this ever be
accomplished?
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Author: Rod SpeedRod Speed Date: Aug 18, 2008 08:42
Sanny hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> As electric cars will be cheaper than using oil for travel.
>> Not a chance, because of the batterys.
> It is difficult at the moment but in 4-5 hours Solar energy
> will be 3 times cheaper than all other types of energy.
Easy to claim, hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.
And you're just plain wrong with nukes anyway.
> And Electric Engine with 100-200 miles range on electric Charge has already been made.
Pity about the price.
> You just need fuel cells and charge them in 5 minutes.
> And you will never need an Oil Station.
You still need a charging station. AND it takes a hell of a lot longer to charge it too.
> Just Charge your car like we charge the Mobile Batteries from the plug.
Pity about how long it takes.
> Good hopes for Solar Energy.
Nothing like that claim of yours now at the top.
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Author: Rod SpeedRod Speed Date: Aug 18, 2008 08:44
> Dear Sanny:
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> On Aug 18, 3:44 am, Sanny hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> As electric cars will be cheaper than using oil for travel.
>>>
>>> Not a chance, because of the batterys.
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>> It is difficult at the moment but in 4-5 years Solar energy
>> will be 3 times cheaper than all other types of energy.
>
> Only if all the coal and oil disappears, or if "carbon taxes" make
> them cost prohibitive.
>
>> And Electric Engine with 100-200 miles range on electric
>> Charge has already been made.
>
> But *not* carbon neutral. Manufacturing the batteries take a lot of
> power.
> ...
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Author: dlzcdlzc Date: Aug 18, 2008 09:55
Dear Antares 531:
On Aug 18, 7:58Â am, Antares 531 swbell.net> wrote:
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> A controlled reliable means for cold hydrogen fusion
> would solve most of the world's fuel/energy problems,
> but how can this ever be accomplished?
It can't. If it could occur, Nature would have done it. The
coloumbic barrier keeping positve charges apart is too high to have
cold fusion. And were this not so, we would not be alive to have this
discussion.
Additionally, fusion of any sort will release *hosts* of neutrons,
which will make materials around them radioactive. The expectation is
that once we have fusion power plants, they will move from facility to
facility, returning to the first facility after a few years... after
the radiation has decayed down enough to recycle the facility. Sort
of like the Mad Hatter's Tea Party.
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