| Re: Can there be life on Sun? |
|
 |
|
 |
|
 |
|
 |
Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: AndroclesAndrocles Date: Aug 9, 2008 03:50
netvision.net.il> wrote in message
news:220621da-7dd3-4652-b37a-4868b2b758e5@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On 7 ??????, 23:28, "Androcles" wrote:
> "Anthony Buckland" telus.net> wrote in message
>
> news:UcKdnbUbH6U_wQfVnZ2dnUVZ_sbinZ2d@giganews.com...
> || "Androcles" wrote in message
>
> |news:ENqmk.79920$dz3.61736@newsfe20.ams2...
> | >
> | > "Starman" wrote in message
> | >news:489a2149$0$15876$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
> | > | Yeah but isn't our definition of life that it is organic
> | >
> | >
> | > OUR definition is NOT your definition.
> | > I happen to know the electrical sockets in my home are alive.
> |
> |
> | Okay, but don't try to kill them by stabbing them with a sharp
> | knife.
> |
> | Back to life. Is it organized, self-reproducing, and metabolic
> | (in some sense)? To make it interesting, is it mutable without
> | necessarily dying?
> |
> Organized... does that mean arranged in some sort of order, as in
> organizing a piss-up in a brewery, or does it mean having lungs,
> heart, liver etc...?
> Self-reproducing...if you have a vasectomy invest in Xerox.
> Metabolic -
> 1 a: the sum of the processes in the buildup and destruction of
> protoplasm;
> specifically : the chemical changes in living cells by which energy is
> provided for vital processes and activities and new material is
> assimilated
> b: the sum of the processes by which a particular substance is handled in
> the living body
>
> If life is metabolic and metabolism is change in the living then we have a
> circular definition.
>
> Mutable without dying.
> Now we come to individuals which die and species which do not.
>
> Is larval stage to adult in insect metamorphosis mutable?
> In particular, do caterpillars die?
>
> It amuses me that the anti-evolution brigade where a species
> changes to adapt to its environment (as man and dog have done)
> find that idea preposterous, yet insects can do it within the
> life span of the individual.
>
> Machine automata are a simple form of life.
> http://www.ibiblio.org/lifepatterns/
>
> At what level of complexity do we say a chemical reaction is "life",
> and does it need to be chemical?
>
> Are viruses alive? Are bacteria alive?
>
> And I don't care about your answer since it would only be opinion.
Are Viruses "Alive"?
alive = organism:
arth's organisms: temporary self-replicable constrained-energy genetic
systems that support and maintain Earth's biosphere by maintenance of
genes.
============================================
Read the thread title and then ask yourself if "arth" is the Sun.
And I don't care about your answer since it would only be opinion.
| 
