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Author: Ed
Date: Jul 2, 2008 10:42

Being alive is an activity not a condition.

For complex beings like humans it's the coordinated activity of
millions of cells, acting in a myriad of groups (muscle, glands,
organs etc.). Death is the cessation of this activity, or, perhaps,
the absence of this activity. The activity of living cells is easily
distinguishable from the slow chemical changes that occur in a "dead"
cell; the living cell takes in nourishment and transforms it to
energy.

There is in nature a kind of life after death, creatures large and
small use the materials in which activity has ceased as food; thus
life is perpetuated. The rotting and corruption of corpses is not
activity of the dead cells but the activity of living microorganisms
that are using the corpse as food.

If there is a relationship between living and being aware or having a
sense of identity, then when the living stops the awareness stops. If
there is no such relationship and the fact that "you" have a body is
some bizzare coincidence then death or living of the body is
irrelevant. It becomes pointless to talk of what happens after death
because the body and the "you" are not related
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Re: Being Alive         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Jul 2, 2008 19:27

On Jul 2, 10:42 am, Ed earthlink.net> wrote:
> Being alive is an activity not a condition.
>
> For complex beings like humans it's the coordinated activity of
> millions of cells, acting in a myriad of groups (muscle, glands,
> organs etc.). Death is the cessation of this activity, or, perhaps,
> the absence of this activity. The activity of living cells is easily
> distinguishable from the slow chemical changes that occur in a "dead"
> cell; the living cell takes in nourishment and transforms it to
> energy.
>
> There is in nature a kind of life after death, creatures large and
> small use the materials in which activity has ceased as food; thus
> life is perpetuated. The rotting and corruption of corpses is not
> activity of the dead cells but the activity of living microorganisms
> that are using the corpse as food.
>
> If there is a relationship between living and being aware or having a
> sense of identity, then when the living stops the awareness stops. If
> there is no such relationship and the fact that "you" have a body is ...
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Re: Being Alive         


Author: Hardpan
Date: Jul 3, 2008 01:26

On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:42:12 -0700 (PDT), Ed earthlink.net>
wrote:
>Being alive is an activity not a condition.

OK, if you say so, but lots of humans would disagree with you.
>For complex beings like humans it's the coordinated activity of
>millions of cells, acting in a myriad of groups (muscle, glands,
>organs etc.). Death is the cessation of this activity, or, perhaps,
>the absence of this activity. The activity of living cells is easily
>distinguishable from the slow chemical changes that occur in a "dead"
>cell; the living cell takes in nourishment and transforms it to
>energy.

True enough, for the body.

You cannot prove that cessation of physical activity translates into
anything beyond death of the body, just by the inactivity of the cells
of the physical body, now can you?
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Re: Being Alive         


Author: bigfletch8
Date: Jul 3, 2008 07:18

On Jul 3, 3:42 am, Ed earthlink.net> wrote:
> Being alive is an activity not a condition.
>
> For complex beings like humans it's the coordinated activity of
> millions of cells, acting in a myriad of groups (muscle, glands,
> organs etc.).  Death is the cessation of this activity, or, perhaps,
> the absence of this activity. The activity of living cells is easily
> distinguishable from the slow chemical changes that occur in a "dead"
> cell; the living cell takes in nourishment and transforms it to
> energy.
>
> There is in nature a kind of life after death, creatures large and
> small use the materials in which activity has ceased as food; thus
> life is perpetuated.  The rotting and corruption of corpses is not
> activity of the dead cells but the activity of living microorganisms
> that are using the corpse as food.
>
> If there is a relationship between living and being aware or having a
> sense of identity, then when the living stops the awareness stops.  If
> there is no such relationship and the fact that "you" have a body is ...
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Re: Being Alive         


Author: bigfletch8
Date: Jul 3, 2008 07:22

On Jul 3, 6:26 pm, Hardpan yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:42:12 -0700 (PDT), Ed earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Being alive is an activity not a condition.
>
> OK, if you say so, but lots of humans would disagree with you.
>
>>For complex beings like humans it's the coordinated activity of
>>millions of cells, acting in a myriad of groups (muscle, glands,
>>organs etc.).  Death is the cessation of this activity, or, perhaps,
>>the absence of this activity. The activity of living cells is easily
>>distinguishable from the slow chemical changes that occur in a "dead"
>>cell; the living cell takes in nourishment and transforms it to
>>energy.
>
> True enough, for the body.
>
> You cannot prove that cessation of physical activity translates into
> anything beyond death of the body, just by the inactivity of the cells ...
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Re: Being Alive         


Author: Ed
Date: Jul 3, 2008 17:49

On Jul 2, 10:27 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 2, 10:42 am, Ed earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> Being alive is an activity not a condition.
>
>> For complex beings like humans it's the coordinated activity of
>> millions of cells, acting in a myriad of groups (muscle, glands,
>> organs etc.).  Death is the cessation of this activity, or, perhaps,
>> the absence of this activity. The activity of living cells is easily
>> distinguishable from the slow chemical changes that occur in a "dead"
>> cell; the living cell takes in nourishment and transforms it to
>> energy.
>
>> There is in nature a kind of life after death, creatures large and
>> small use the materials in which activity has ceased as food; thus
>> life is perpetuated.  The rotting and corruption of corpses is not ...
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Re: Being Alive         


Author: Ed
Date: Jul 3, 2008 17:56

On Jul 3, 4:26 am, Hardpan yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:42:12 -0700 (PDT), Ed earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Being alive is an activity not a condition.
>
> OK, if you say so, but lots of humans would disagree with you.
>
>>For complex beings like humans it's the coordinated activity of
>>millions of cells, acting in a myriad of groups (muscle, glands,
>>organs etc.).  Death is the cessation of this activity, or, perhaps,
>>the absence of this activity. The activity of living cells is easily
>>distinguishable from the slow chemical changes that occur in a "dead"
>>cell; the living cell takes in nourishment and transforms it to
>>energy.
>
> True enough, for the body.
>
> You cannot prove that cessation of physical activity translates into
> anything beyond death of the body, just by the inactivity of the cells ...
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Re: Being Alive         


Author: Hardpan
Date: Jul 4, 2008 00:43

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:56:53 -0700 (PDT), Ed earthlink.net>
wrote:
>On Jul 3, 4:26 am, Hardpan yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:42:12 -0700 (PDT), Ed earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Being alive is an activity not a condition.
>>
>> OK...
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Re: Being Alive         


Author: Hardpan
Date: Jul 4, 2008 00:45

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:22:18 -0700 (PDT), "bigfletch8@gmail.com"
gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jul 3, 6:26 pm, Hardpan yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:42:12 -0700 (PDT), Ed earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Being alive is an activity not a condition.
>>
>> OK...
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Re: Being Alive         


Author: Ed
Date: Jul 4, 2008 06:05

On Jul 4, 3:43 am, Hardpan yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:56:53 -0700 (PDT), Ed earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>>On Jul 3, 4:26 am, Hardpan yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:42:12 -0700 (PDT), Ed earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>
>>>>Being alive is an activity not a condition.
>
>>> OK, if you say so, but lots of humans would disagree with you.
>
>>>>For complex beings like humans it's the coordinated activity of
>>>>millions of cells, acting in a myriad of groups (muscle, glands,
>>>>organs etc.).  Death is the cessation of this activity, or, perhaps,
>>>>the absence of this activity. The activity of living cells is easily ...
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