On Jan 27, 11:30 am, malen...@hotmail.com wrote:

Oh so you want to go back to that now? So what is it about a right
triangle that poses a problem for universals?

MG

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:02:08 -0800 (PST), Michael Gordge
xtra.co.nz> wrote:

A question. The answer is: there is no such "sensory data" as a right
triangle. You can identify things that look like right triangles but
they are only approximations. To what? An ideal concept, in your mind,
of what a right triangle is that could not have come from sensory
evidence in a universe where no right triangles have or ever will
exist.

On Jan 27, 4:45 pm, Malrassic Park hotmail.com> wrote:

That was not my fucking question, not even close, my question was,
YOUR accusation is that there is some thing about the existence of
"right triangles" that poses a problem for universals, and so I asked
you to explain what do you mean by "right triangle".

It is YOUR claim they EXIST, and NOW you're saying they dont exist,
the question is NOT metaphysics, its epistemology.

EXPLAIN what you are looking for, for some thing to qualify as a right
triangle.

Draw me a picture, a mental one, i.e. one for me to imagine is just
fine, and then explain HOW what you have defined or explained to me,
poses a problem for anything.

e.g. You say they are "only approximations" but you dont say WHAT they
are only approximations to and you haven't even attempted to explain
what one would be like, to be even an approximation.

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:41:35 -0800 (PST), Michael Gordge
xtra.co.nz> wrote:

Epistemology did not exist at the time the problem of universals was
first brought up. Epistemology was probably invented to solve it.

On Jan 28, 2:49 am, Malrassic Park hotmail.com> wrote:

Oh loook, yet another assault from his ivory tower, yet just another
sign of how desperate things are getting in the Kantian camp, camp
being an intended pun with ewe now wanting and needing to crawl into
the arse of a complete and utter brain dead commie envy ridden
parasitical anti-human knuckle-dragging fuckwit.

HOW do three dead straight lines drawn and or imagined between three
pre-determined and precise points pose any problem at all for
anything? When in reality the specific purpose of drawing or imagining
such a thing is to solve specific and particular problems?

Why dont you want to explain precisely what you mean by right
triangle?

But dont fucking bother, because I understand now that you'd rather
sniff around Timm'z dirty disgusting arse stretching as far as his
head.

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:33:29 -0800 (PST), Michael Gordge
xtra.co.nz> wrote:

I am not in an ivory tower. Look whose talking about ivory towers: a
Randroid elitist.

On Jan 28, 6:32 am, Malrassic Park hotmail.com> wrote:

I have have never accused you of being intelligent, even though the
evidence is over-whelming that you are, as you keep reminding me
Melon, with your pathetic desperate assaults from your ivory tower, re
kindergarten and elementary school teacher, which clearly you have
used because you believe it is not becoming of your intellect to talk
to or with such people.

Calm down ewe commie cunt, keep it civil.

Nope, because of the consistent context in which I say it is and isn't
to be used, Melon.

My standard always is, I regard imagination as the opposite to
reality, therefore I use is in that context.

Man can imagine reality but not create it.

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:51:16 -0800 (PST), Michael Gordge
xtra.co.nz> wrote:

Don't act like a grade schooler and I won't sound like I'm in some
ivory tower.

On Jan 28, 11:40 am, Malrassic Park hotmail.com> wrote:

There you go again, climb down, I act according to the evidence.

I had to imagine what would happen if I didn't grease the universals
on the drive shaft of the hay mower and conditioner and the baler and
the sprayer and the drive shaft of my RV and that is the ONLY role
universals have ever had or have in my life.

Ask me questions about reality, the reality of what Rand said and Kant
meant.

I do check my premises, no matter matter's not.

Subjects not about matter are subjects to avoid, ask me questions
about matter, that way we are talking about something real.

Michael Gordge