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Re: Atheists make progress but destroy morality, believers increase morality but neglect progress - so what God is to do with present people (JP)         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Tokay Pino Gris
Date: May 6, 2008 03:42

janpajak@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 6, 11:07 am, Lorrill Buyens interlacken.com> wrote:
> ...
>>> Your do NOT need to accept my proofs - you missed my point. I do NOT
>>> wish to make you believe in what I do bielieve. I only wish to open an
>>> access to evidence and to proofs regarding God to all these people who
>>> are ready to seek this evidence and proofs.
>> And you expect to find them in groups like alt.atheism? Good luck...
> ...
>>> Because "there are NO atheists amongst scared",
>> This wasn't true when it was phrased as "There are no atheists in foxholes," and
>> it still isn't true today.
> ...
> (1) Regarding the top comment: I was an "atheist" myself - so I know
> why most of people are "atheists".

No, you don't.

We are just "tricked" into atheism
> by official atheistic teachings and by official atheistic statements
> of present science.

Wrong.

The reason is that the atheistic science does NOT
> allow the truth and scientific evidence about God to be disseminatedf
> amongst people.

There is NO such evidence.

So in order to let other "atheists" know, that there
> is a lot of scientific evidence in support of the existence of God,
> and thus to allow them to make a "well informed decision" regarding
> God, I feel to be my duty to disseminate constructive information
> about God (and also the scientific evidence which supports the God's
> existence) also amongst "atheists" - thus also on the group
> "alt.atheism".

I have seen your "evidence" and your "arguments". You can try to get
them published in a peer reviewed paper. See what they think about it.
>
> (2) Regarding the word "foxholes" from the proverb, no many people
> know that these "foxholes" are actually holes in the ground which
> during the World War One were caused by bombs and by heavy artilery
> shelling.

Wrong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxhole

So the expression "in foxholes" actually means "amongst very
> scared people that hide from bombs and from heavy artilery shelling in
> all possible holes made on the ground".

In the context of the saying, that's about correct, yes.

This is why for clarity I
> altered the original proverb. If in present times I would write this
> proverb in the original version, many readers could thing that it may
> mean "There are no atheists amongst foxes and other animals".

Wrong. I have never been to a foxhole, my mother tongue is not even
english, and yet I know what a foxhole is better than you do.
>
> Anyway, thank you for your extensive comments. Although I disagree
> with what you said, I agree that a "discussion extends horizons" and
> also that "atheists are the primary source of knowledge and progress
> on the Earth". Since God promotes and facilitates the knowledge and
> progress on the Earth - this is probably why She does NOT kill all
> "atheists" with a powerful ligtning, and tolerates their nonsences.

Bullshit

Tokay

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