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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Hybrid Angel
Date: Feb 20, 2008 10:16

"DanielSan" gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hybrid Angel said the following on 2/20/2008 12:28 AM:
>> "DanielSan" gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:n6KdnfVU85WwjiTanZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Hybrid Angel said the following on 2/17/2008 7:48 PM:
>>>> "DanielSan" gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> Hybrid Angel said the following on 2/16/2008 11:40 PM:
>>>>>
>>>> <<>>
>>>>>>>> Because you're a living human being, who dies.....
>>>>>>> O....kay....? And that has what to do with the Bible?
>>>>>> Immortality & Death......
>>>>> Do you really believe that cryptic one-liners constitute evidence?
>>>> Well...we were made for immortality but got death instead......
>>>> Evidence is.....we fucking die......
>>>>
>>>> And we a have a longevity gene.....eXtreme longevity.......
>>>> Inactive of course. But the first male lived 960 earth years.....
>>> I'll ask you once again. Where is your evidence that the first male
>>> lived
>>> for 960 earth years?
>>
>> In Genesis...
>
> Insufficient.

He cannot be found.....in the doubting mind....
>
>>
>>> If you mention the Bible, you're also going to have to show how what
>>> is
>>> written in the Bible can be used as evidence for which I can see.
>>
>> You can't see a fucking thing, you refuse to see anything within reason.
>
> Why is the Bible "reasonable"?

It shapes our reality......
>
>>> Basically, I'm looking for extrabiblical evidence of a 960 year old
>>> human.
>>
>> The human race.....
>
> ...has no history of a 960-year-old human. A book with talking snakes is
> not a reasonable source.

There is NO talking snake. There is a talking rogue angel......
>
>>>> And slowly it came to where man's years will be 120+/-....
>>>>
>>>> Do you agree......?
>>>>
>>>> 120.....geeeezzzz....not many of us see that birthday....!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So long as you believe in the facts of any given situation,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are still believing in what I consider to be God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then this "God" entity is meaningless to everyone but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be whatever you want it to be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, God is still very meaningful...just also very mysterious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I do not have physical evidence thereof, it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> meaningless...beyond
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> message of the book. The character is irrelevant.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But Harry Potter is.....
>>>>>>>>>>> Not the character. Not the events, either.
>>>>>>>>>> Are you dissing Harry......?
>>>>>>>>> I don't think he'll mind. ;-)
>>>>>>>> Do you have personal commune with him....?
>>>>>>> Err, no.
>>>>>> You call him to arms......
>>>>> Err, no.
>>>> He's your fricken hero. A Nerd....
>>> No, he's not. I don't consider fictional characters amongst my heroes.
>>
>> You took him out of box enough....to use against me......
>
> Right, because both God and Harry Potter are equally fictional. Both
> exist only in books and movies.

And only one affects your reality.....

I call it the....."The Two Nation Creation"......

Created and Repeated.....
>
>>>>>>>>> You do know that Harry is not real, right?
>>>>>>>> I do. I don't think you do.....!
>>>>>>> You're the one that thinks fictional characters are real, not I.
>>>>>> HaShem is a REAL character in the scheme of things......
>>>>> Prove it.
>>>> We live and die.....
>>> Irrelevant. Prove that HaShem is real.
>>
>> Israel and Islam! How many times before you acknowledge it....
>
> The existence of countries and religions is not sufficient evidence for
> gods.

Not for ANY GOD you trust in Hollywood...

But for ONE Omnipotent/Almighty God....
(eXcept for Bruce and Evan Almighty)

And there is NONE else! Try to find Him in any of your Sci-Fi
bullshit! Or in any of those ancient cultures you tout....

You have never seen HaShem portrayed on the Silver Screen.....
The fact of Cain interbreeding.....

It would make a good "Science Fact" movie....!

What the fuck, HaShem is all about energy, infinite matter igniting
Creation to infinite matter igniting Suns to spawn Planets, life &
death............

All to have a Son born on the 0 year......

The Christ says "Hi, Dan....."
>
>>
>> You piss me off being a goddamned unreasonable mother fucker.....
>>>>>> Harry Potter is a figment of his creator's imagination.......
>>>>>> HaShem came from NOBODY'S imagination.....
>>>>> Except the fact that it appears that it was Moses wrote the Torah
>>>>> (Deuteronomy 4:44).
>>>> Not quite....
>>>>> Before the Torah was written, thousands of years before it was
>>>>> written,
>>>>> where was HaShem? Is there any record of HaShem prior to the writing
>>>>> of
>>>>> the Torah?
>>>> He is the Almighty God of Genesis....CREATOR\OWNER....
>>>>
>>>> He introduced Himself to Abram, who migrated from Sumer,
>>>> in what He said to him; "Come before me, for I am the Almighty
>>>> God." First time He said that....
>>>>
>>>> That was 14 years after Ishmael was born. (This is significant)
>>>> He proceeded to change his and his wife's name, and told
>>>> them she would bear a child and He would make his seed a
>>>> great nation.....
>>>>
>>>> Sarah was barren and couldn't bear a child, but HaShem
>>>> made it so she could....
>>>>
>>>> eXzactly what the angel of HaShem told Hagar, fourteen
>>>> years prior....
>>>>
>>>> Ishmael's seed.......Islam....
>>>> Isaac's seed.....Judaism.....
>>>>
>>>> The Torah....the knowledge of Good & Evil....
>>>> The Koran.....the knowledge of Evil.....
>>> I see nothing in the above that shows HaShem being written about before
>>> the Torah was written.
>>
>> You don't even acknowledge Judaism & Islam both had personal
>> doings with HaShem....involved in the two Nations forming.....
>
> Personal doings? Judaism is an evolved form of Zoroastrianism, just as
> Islam. I have seen (nor been offered) any evidence of these "personal
> doings".

He sanctioned His rogue angel to have his own nation borne, and 14
years after the seed of Islam, He introduced Himself as the Almighty
God to Abram. Changed the names of he and his wife.....and had
His own Nation borne.....

The two Nations come from that event.....

Islam had a 14 year head start......

And are a LOT larger in number and size......

Surrounded by the seed of Ishmael.......
>
>>
>> He's out of your range. He filled the void. Higher dimensions....
>>>>>>>>>> The Nerd.....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Uploaded 9 months ago (5/03/07 2:01PM PST)
>>>>>>>>>> Harry Potter and the order of The Phoenix 5 Trailer
>>>>>>>>>> Englishlanguage
>>>>>>>>>> Divx
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You half asses, of ass whole Atheists, have a lot of nerve
>>>>>>>>>> comparing
>>>>>>>>>> a snotty nosed boy, with HaShem......
>>>>>>>>> Why? They're both characters in fiction books.
>>>>>>>> Like hell Potter is Fiction based on Good & Evil....
>>>>>>>> Evil vs Good.....
>>>>>>> The same basic premise of all books.
>>>>>> Right....and it has an origin, read on.....
>>>>> Right. Evolution of man from early hominid ancestry.
>>>> You need an intelligent ape to have gotten so damn smart.
>>>> One who knew seven times seven fold......
>>>>
>>>> That would be Lamech. The last of the hybridized species
>>>> of Cain. The hybridization of the species was complete with
>>>> him.....and from what he said, it's obvious he had commune
>>>> or knew about Cain's crime.....
>>>>
>>>> Then the third son, Seth, was born......
>>>>
>>>> This stuff is wasted on you. It belongs on FOX.....!
>>> No, I just don't believe it. I can talk for hours on Star Wars or
>>> similar, but no matter how much I do, it won't do anything to advance
>>> evidence of force lightning.
>>
>> Stick your fucking Starwars....
>
> Why?

Because it's based on good and evil.....a rip off, of the tree of knowledge.
The knowledge of good and evil.....
>
>> the mind of man the knowledge of God....
>
> Is an invention of man.

Well man uses the knowledge of good and evil on an unequal par.

And where did the New Species of mankind, come from.....?
Hint....genetics was involved......

And minerals of the Earth......
>
>>
>> You can't get the result of a hybridized species......from any other
>> source.
>
> ...hybridized species? I didn't ask before because, well, frankly, you
> were rambling.

Well, you know what the source is......

You'll only believe it if you saw it in a Sci Fi movie...
The Book is already out......
>
>>>>>>>> And THOSE, the knowledge of THOSE, come straight
>>>>>>>> from the Torah, my dear boy.....
>>>>>>> So, what about the good vs evil books written BEFORE the Torah?
>>>>>> There was none before the Beginning....
>>>>> I said, "BEFORE the Torah", meaning before the Torah was written. I
>>>>> can
>>>>> write a book that says "in the beginning" and it will have as much
>>>>> credence as the Torah... unless you can show how your book is to be
>>>>> believed over mine.
>>>> That stuff above? You can't deny that stuff. You can't deny
>>>> that those two nations came into/and are in play....with
>>>> the seed planted by both, the angel of HaShem, and HaShem
>>>> Himself. They ARE reality. REAL Nations. And they had
>>>> an origin! Objective evidence of something BIGGER and a
>>>> hell of a lot SMARTER than "you"....
>>> I am rejecting your conjecture about the origin of the nations.
>>
>> It's not conjecture you fool.....it's a friggin....FACT....!
>
> Evidence?

7 days a week.....

Let US make man in Our image and Our likeness"

Islam & Israel.......

Lots of blood letting from one....
With deep ingrained hatred for the other.....

And the same hatred for ANYONE else that doesn't worship Allah.
They want global domination....you ass......
>
>>> You can't even give me evidence of your deity before the Torah was
>>> written. Instead, you have to divert attention.
>>
>> He's not a deity. He's hyper dimensional.
>
> Oh boy, that's going to require some REALLY extraordinary evidence.

Look at all of those burning suns.....and know there is an intelligence
beyond them.....where Lucifer put himself, in Allah.....

REPEATER of Creation......
>
>> That's why a "House" in the
>> natural <3D>Creation. To interact through his fleshly hosts. Legions
>> of Angels......
>
> ...which also have no evidence.

It's measured in the Apocalypse.

Just like "Man will see weather and Earthquakes as he has never
seen before.:" Is in the Apocalypse....BINGO....!!!

Both of those portend Armageddon.....the eXposing of Islam's origin
>
>>>>>> before man was made....
>>>>> Except that man was "made" before the Abrahamic religions.
>>>> Pathetic....
>>>>>> you ass....
>>>>>>>> As a matter of fact.....In the Beginning........!
>>>>>>> Scholars believe that Genesis was written between 500-450 BC.
>>>>>> B.C.....stands for whom.....?
>>>>> Irrelevant.
>>>> "Irrelevant? After the Christ! So fuck you...!
>>> It's just how we measure time. It's not evidence of Christ.
>>
>> Most certainly does and is.....so fuck you again.....
>
> No, it's not. Are you trying to say there were no calendars before the
> birth of the Christ?

He initiated a calendar from 0 year......2008 AD......

You can't deny that....!
>
>>>>> It's simply the calendar that we use. It is evidence for
>>>>> nothing but the Gregor monks' version of the calendar which was not in
>>>>> use
>>>>> when your Torah was written.
>>>> 7days 24 hours.....It's been like that since the Genesis seven
>>>> days for Creation.....
>>> Actually, no. The Hindu calendar week had 5 days (Tithi, Vaasara,
>>> Naksharta, Yoga, and Karana). The Burmese Buddhist calendar had two
>>> different year structures on it -- one 354 days over 12 months and other
>>> has a 385 days over 13 months. The Hebrew calendar had alternating
>>> 30/29
>>> day months. The Roman calendar had only 10 months on it and only 304
>>> days
>>> in a year. The reformed Roman calendar (the Julian Calendar) added two
>>> more months because the original Roman calendar didn't work.
>>>
>>> It was synchronized by the seasons.
>>>
>>> Today's Gregorian calendar is, like its Pagan origins, assigned and
>>> synchronized according to the seasons.
>>>
>>> In fact, our days are named NOT after Abrahamic religious figures, but
>>> after Greek deities:
>>>
>>> Sunday: Sun's Day
>>> Monday: Moon's Day
>>> Tuesday: Tiw's Day
>>> Wednesday: Woden's (Odin's) Day
>>> Thursday: Thor's Day
>>> Friday: Frigga's (Freyja's) Day
>>> Saturday: Saturn's Day.
>>
>> Yeah....7/24/365....7 days for Creation.....
>
> The Hindus would disagree with you with their 5 day week and the Romans
> would disagree with you and their 304-day year.

Seems like NONE worked out. You know there's not 304 days in a
year. Are they being used in commerce....?
>
>>>> It was 'penned' from where the Almighty eXists in whatever
>>>> matter, form, or energy.....pure intelligence........
>>>>
>>>> Dictating to His legion secretary.....
>>>>>> What those "scholars" tell you is bullshit....
>>>>> ...riiiiiight..
>>>> ...wrooooong......
>>>>>> That BC proves it.....
>>>>> No, not really.
>>>> It signifies the Christ......
>>> In the Gregorian Calendar, yes.
>>
>> OUR calendar......the only one we use.....
>
> ...is an invention of Aloysisus Lillius of Calabria and decreed by Pope
> Gregory XIII in the Gregorian 1500s. It is not evidence of Jesus.

It was invented with the 7 days of Creation. Lights in the sky for, signs,
seasons, days, weeks, months and years......

Seems like the present day calendar is right on....!
24/7/365......
>
>> All commerce uses it.....
>>
>> You're like a slimy snake........
>>>> Why a countdown to his birth......?
>>> Gregorian monks?
>>>
>>> By the way, Jesus, according to Biblical scholars, was born sometime
>>> between 7 and 3 BC, not year 1BC or year 1AD
>>
>> Nobody knows for sure. So you get 0 year from me......!
>
> No, we do. In the Gregorian calendar:
>
> December 30, 1BC
> December 31, 1BC
> January 1, 1AD
> January 2, 1AD

And my time-line shows a 0 year......
>
>>>> Think Creation could have been made to have him born?
>>> No.
>>
>> What do you think the CountDown is all about......?
>
> It was a papal decree.

papal bull

What the fuck are you talking about?

They wrote Genesis.....?
>
>>>>>> The Torah was before any THING was made....
>>>>>>
>>>>> Um, how was it written, then?
>>>> Hyper dimensionally.....
>>> ....riiiiighhht...
>>
>> Oh......you dismiss such a thing? How convenient....and open minded.
>
> I will be open-minded to things that have evidence, and an extraordinary
> claim like that will require extraordinary evidence.

What I'm saying to you, you find not eXtraordinary.....?

You IGNORE and DENY your little ass off........
>
>>>>>> It's the GENESIS of Creation, your Universe, for Christ Jesus'
>>>>>> sake, you ass. Are you THAT frickin stupid....?
>>>>> So, what you're saying is, the Torah was written before it was
>>>>> written...?
>>>>> And I'm the stupid one?
>>>> I think it was written as it was happening.....after all His legions
>>>> were in His house ready to do His bidding.....
>>> You "think"? You don't "know"?
>>
>> Well....let's say...."Now you know it was"......
>
> Actually, I do not. The great majority of the Old and New Testaments were
> written AFTER the fact. Many years after the fact. Sometimes multiple
> generations after the fact.

Genesis was written once. Dictated by HaShem.......

He beyond the stars, and His hosts, among them....
>
>>>> Like record what he says......
>>>>> You're still not explaining WHY the Torah should be considered
>>>>> evidence
>>>>> of
>>>>> "Creation". To me, it is simply a storybook with as much credibility
>>>>> as
>>>>> a
>>>>> Harry Potter book.
>>>> The two Nations that come from it....
>>> So?
>>
>> One borne by an angel of HaShem.......
>
> Prove it.

Genesis 16....
>
>> And one borne by HaShem Himself.....
>
> Prove it.

Genesis 17
>
>>
>> REALITY PURE AND SIMPLE ......
>
> Then you won't have any problem showing evidence thereof.

I'm showing you evidence. eXtraordinary evidence......
>
>>>>> Until you can show me extrabiblical (not from the Torah) evidence that
>>>>> the
>>>>> Torah is to be believed, I won't.
>>>> Islam & Judaism.....
>>>>
>>>> They do eXist don't they...?
>>> Yes. But their existence does not mean that the Torah should be
>>> believed.
>>
>> That is a stupid thing to say.....really you are a pathetic denying
>> simpleton...
>
> Ad hominem wastes only your time and mine. It does nothing to advance the
> conversation.

Well you are an eXtemely aggravating individual. A stubborn, pig headed
moron.....
>
>>
>> Those two nations eXist and have an origin. Until you recognize the
>> origin
>
> I reject your hypothesis as to their origins.

It's FACT! Objective FACT in the eXistence of the two Nations
and cultures....

Live with it.....
>
>> ......I'm through here.......
>
> Oh, we're done here?

I am.....and relieved....I am.....
> So, the only evidence you have is "it has to be" and a very tenuous grasp
> on history?

And you on reality.....
>
> I thought so.

You THINK not....!
>
>
<<>> The agonizing, tortuous, unreasonable denial of FACTS.......
>

~>
Twonky

Hybrid Angel/Messenger
It's the Kingdom, the New Jerusalem, in which time is dilated.....

"One day with the Lord is as a thousand years. A thousand years
as one day."

Higher/Hyper dimensions boneheads......!

The Anti Christ 666 will be in the name and/or on the hand of a man.

On the hand of Ishmael.....a wild ass of a man, his hand against ALL
men, and ALL men's hand against his....

In the name of Allah....
The word 'six' appears seven times in the Koran. One is capitalized.
The other six is in six separate verses where Allah praises himself
for making creation in six days.....666.....in his name....

"I, Me, the Mighty, the great and powerful Allah. Allah the Supreme
Being, Allah the merciful, Allah the bountiful", blah blah blah blAllah.

Sounds like the Most Powerful Wizard of Oz.....eXposed.....

The seventh 'Six' is capitalized and speaks in the plural.

"We....did not seek slumber...." (SIC)

Neither did HaShem, on the 7th day....He finished up and took
a break....sat back and watched Creation work.....

The 7 days of HaShem is because that's how our planet works
in the Solar System....

The 6 days of Allah is, to "REPEAT" the Creation.....

OUTED

Armageddon.....
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