On Nov 22, 7:17 pm, "Caspar"
nospam.com> wrote:>>> Beauty is only relative to what you know. You may find Bach or Beethoven
>>> or
>>> other music you have heard beautiful - but maybe Odysseus who had heard
>>> the
>>> music of the sirens would disagree. But then how could you compare
>>> unless
>>> you had heard this music yourself.
>>> The same applies to any form of beauty.- Hide quoted text -
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>> To Caspar :
>
>> Your first line makes my point . Beauty is indeed
>> only relative to what I know . That is precisely the
>> point . That is also its relationship to the other
>> eternal gifts from God . Truth , Love , and Timeless
>> Theme with respect to Art .
>> Mankinds knowledge of these is the same for
>> all human beings . God does not discriminate in this
>> regard and neither do we . As manifestations of God
>> and not man . Man has the same regard for all
>> whenever they are manifest .
>> A man may prefer Bach or Beethoven but it
>> is not Bach or Beethoven or the listener who
>> made their Art eternal through its manifestation .
>> It is that gift which we all possess to perceive
>> God , through these eternal manifestations ; which
>> bear witness to His existence and our own .
>
>> Ledraychere
>
> You say there is no discrimination - what of the blind, the deaf, the brain
> dead, the tone deaf, the colour blind.
> Surely if there was a God and these gifts are equally for all, then all
> would have equal access and equal ability to appreciate?
> Some have only seen the rain fall and never heard this.
> Some have only heard the rain fall and never seen this.
> If these indeed are gifts from your so called God - then is unfairness or
> injustice also one of his eternal gifts?- Hide quoted text -
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To Caspar :
I replied to your last entry last night , for some
reason it wasn't posted . It was a really good answer .
I sure liked it . I think you would have too . I'm
sorry it's not there for us to read . Sometimes I
think God does this to me just to see if I
can remember the answers he gave me . Ha Ha Ha .
Well , here I go again , I hope I can remember
this stuff . He's sure going to be mad if I don't .
God does not discriminate , life itself does .
The gifts God gave equally for all have the same
" Identity of purpose " that all transitory creations
have . They just happen to have the extra aspect
of being eternal .
These eternal gifts are not limited to the human
senses , though the senses which have not been
impaired , are always enhanced to compensate .
You must believe from your line of questioning ,
that without these senses the knowledge and the
appreciation of God or eternity along with the
appreciation of art will be diminished . There are
examples to cite to establish that this isn't true ,
but frankly it is not Beauty or Truth which separate
mankind from God and the eternal or even a Timeless
Theme like the Story of Mankind and his own truth
about himself . No ,it is the other eternal which ties
God and the eternal to Mankind . It is LOVE .
Even if God tells me the truth , even if I tell that
truth
to others about the Story of Mankind , even if as a
poet ,
I can appreciate God's existence and marvel at his
creation's including Mankind ; without the LOVE of the
creator and his creation's , which give testimony to God
on my behalf of my LOVE for him , my spirit shall perish
with the Universe , and it should .
Ledraychere
