On Jul 8, 6:45Â am, Nic
hotmail.co.uk> wrote:> On 6 Jul, 04:48, turtoni
fastmail.net> wrote:
>>> "Art is often intended to appeal and connect with human emotion. It
>> can arouse aesthetic or moral feelings, and can be understood as a way
>> of communicating these feelings. Artists express something so that
>> their audience is aroused to some extent, but they do not have to do
>> so consciously. Art explores what is commonly termed as the human
>> condition that is essentially what it is to be human. Effective art
>> often brings about some new insight concerning the human condition
>> either singly or en-mass, which is not necessarily always positive, or
>> necessarily widens the boundaries of collective human ability. The
>> degree of skill that the artist has, will affect their ability to
>> trigger an emotional response and thereby provide new insights, the
>> ability to manipulate them at will shows exemplary skill and
>> determination."
>
>> ~wick
>
> its almost a tragedy that you are not yourself any kind of real time
> artist Turtoni !
well thats nice of you to say so Nic! i'm not sure how you came to
this conclusion tho. and it'd be true to say that i certainly would
like to explore my imagination and produce forms of philosophical art
that had some kind of appeal to others. perhaps i'll have some time in
the future to folllow down that avenue.
> I find it interesting to read writeups by people
> about
> artists and their work....who have no personal experience of the real
> work it involves. !! However...if you were discussing the work of a
> skilled designer (aka 'artist commissioned to produce work towards
> specific purposes) it should be made clear. The other point is that
> artists do not necessarily & deliberatly or intentionally try to
> generate
> instill delight or inspire feeling in the people they show their work
> to.
>
> Effective art..is a matter of collective interpretation according to
> a compiled statistic.....and that really will depend on things like
> the era..the medium...the people you show the work to and even
> the lighting and if background music was being played.
agreed. i like the idea of complex forms of art that produce open
ended feeling and meaning about it; thereby allowing the viewer to
make of it what they will and raise questions about the piece within
themselves.
>>The
>> degree of skill that the artist has, will affect their ability to
>> trigger an emotional response and thereby provide new insights, the
>> ability to manipulate them at will shows exemplary skill and
>> determination."
>
> while some artist do or don't appear to have a skill that triggers
> and emotional response in their viewers...there are most definitely
> people who will invest in the skills that some artists and some
> designers have to further a 'collective ambition' although not
> necessaril humane or morally realistic
>
>
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,997256,00.html
i'm going to be enjoying reading a book by Neil Gaiman "American Gods"
that a friend recently sent me.
"How ironic when the Great American Novel is written by an Englishman!
The absolutely elfin Neil Gaiman earns himself a lasting place in
American literature with this novel. There are echoes of Hawthorne,
Melville, lots of Lovercraft, and more than a smidgen of Kerouac here.
While wonderfully providing quirky and fascinating personalities for
all his mythic cast, the characterization of the Egyptian cat goddess
Bast (a Gaiman essential from his Sandman days) and of Whiskey Jack,
from Native American folklore are quite unforgettable. But most
amazing of all, is the precise and flawless capture of the
quintessence of the American character. Mr. Gaiman's scalpel-like
intuition and perception of who we are as Americans is awesomely
brutal and unflinching. Few writers born on this side of the Atlantic
understand and portray it a quarter as well. This would be an
excellent choice for academic study, but that detracts nothing from
the fast-paced, page-turning excitement and sheer joie de vivre. Life-
affirming literature and a rollicking good time
