On Sun, 25 May 2008 15:40:09 -0400, Dionisio 5ellimd.com> wrote:
>Genesis 4:19
> And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one [was] Adah, and the name of
>the other Zillah.
> [Oh dear, first book of the Bible, and already there's a plurality of folks married
>to one man. Hardy an auspicious start for the "Christian history says" angle...]
>Genesis 29:21-28
> And Jacob said unto Laban, Give [me] my wife, for my days are fulfilled, that I may
>go in unto her. 22 And Laban gathered together all the men of the place, and made a feast.
>23 And it came to pass in the evening, that he took Leah his daughter, and brought her to
>him; and he went in unto her. 24 And Laban gave unto his daughter Leah Zilpah his maid
>[for] an handmaid. 25 And it came to pass, that in the morning, behold, it [was] Leah: and
>he said to Laban, What [is] this thou hast done unto me? did not I serve with thee for
>Rachel? wherefore then hast thou beguiled me? 26 And Laban said, It must not be so done in
>our country, to give the younger before the firstborn. {country: Heb. place} 27 Fulfil her
>week, and we will give thee this also for the service which thou shalt serve with me yet
>seven other years. 28 And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he gave him Rachel his
>daughter to wife also.
> [Jacob. Hmm... Wasn't he rather important to Christianity? How could his marital
>status be overlooked by the "faithful"? Willfully perhaps?]
>
>Genesis 36:2-4
> Esau took his wives of the daughters of Canaan; Adah the daughter of Elon the
>Hittite, and Aholibamah the daughter of Anah the daughter of Zibeon the Hivite; 3 And
>Bashemath Ishmael's daughter, sister of Nebajoth.
> [Still not out of Genesis, and here's another man with several wives. Sheesh.]
>
>And then there's this little item in Deuteronomy 21:15-17
> If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him
>children, [both] the beloved and the hated; and [if] the firstborn son be hers that was
>hated: 16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit [that] which he hath,
>[that] he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated,
>[which is indeed] the firstborn: 17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated [for]
>the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he [is] the
>beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn [is] his. {that...: Heb. that is
>found with him}
> [Oh yes, "one man and one woman was the law of the land." So much so that laws were
>written for folks who had more than one wife. (Please note the extensive use of sarcasm
>there.)]
>
>Judges 8:30-31
> And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives.
>{of his...: Heb. going out of his thigh} 31 And his concubine that [was] in Shechem, she
>also bare him a son, whose name he called Abimelech. {called: Heb. set}
> [More multiple wives, and a concubine! The monogamy knows no end.]
>
>
>1st Samuel 1:1-2
> Now there was a certain man of Ramathaimzophim, of mount Ephraim, and his name [was]
>Elkanah, the son of Jeroham, the son of Elihu, the son of Tohu, the son of Zuph, an
>Ephrathite: 2 And he had two wives; the name of the one [was] Hannah, and the name of the
>other Peninnah: and Peninnah had children, but Hannah had no children.
> [Well, that one was rather obscure. Maybe we should just chuck it.]
>
>
>1st Samuel 25:40-43
> And when the servants of David were come to Abigail to Carmel, they spake unto her,
>saying, David sent us unto thee, to take thee to him to wife. 41 And she arose, and bowed
>herself on [her] face to the earth, and said, Behold, [let] thine handmaid [be] a servant
>to wash the feet of the servants of my lord. 42 And Abigail hasted, and arose, and rode
>upon an ass, with five damsels of hers that went after her; and she went after the
>messengers of David, and became his wife. {after her: Heb. at her feet} 43 David also took
>Ahinoam of Jezreel; and they were also both of them his wives.
> [Well, my, my, my. Another fairly important figure in Christianity. And another man
>whose life just dripped with monogamy. Oh the inconvenience!]
>
>
>2nd Samuel 12:7-11
> And Nathan said to David, Thou [art] the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I
>anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul; 8 And I gave
>thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of
>Israel and of Judah; and if [that had been] too little, I would moreover have given unto
>thee such and such things. 9 Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to
>do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken
>his wife [to be] thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon. 10
>Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised
>me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife. 11 Thus saith the LORD,
>Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy
>wives before thine eyes, and give [them] unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy
>wives in the sight of this sun.
> [Grabby King David! As if his present wives weren't enough, he engineers the killing
>of Uriah so he can get married to yet another wife. Oh, and I just LOVE verse 11, don't
>you? "What God hath joined together, let no man tear asunder." But if God Himself wants to
>do that, well, that's okey dokey.]
>
>
>2nd Samuel 19:5
> And Joab came into the house to the king, and said, Thou hast shamed this day the
>faces of all thy servants, which this day have saved thy life, and the lives of thy sons
>and of thy daughters, and the lives of thy wives, and the lives of thy concubines
> [More wives and concubines! Will the monogamy never end?]
>
>
>1st Kings 11:1-3
> But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh,
>women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, [and] Hittites; {together...: or,
>beside} 2 Of the nations [concerning] which the LORD said unto the children of Israel, Ye
>shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: [for] surely they will turn
>away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love. 3 And he had seven
>hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines
> [Was that the word "hundred"? And were there several of those hundreds? And were
>there also several hundreds of concubines?!? And this is a man praised as the wisest man
>around? Sheesh. He's lucky something didn't fall off! But, oh yes, that was all monogamy
>don't ya know...]
>
>
>1st Kings 20:1-7
> And Benhadad the king of Syria gathered all his host together: and [there were]
>thirty and two kings with him, and horses, and chariots: and he went up and besieged
>Samaria, and warred against it. 2 And he sent messengers to Ahab king of Israel into the
>city, and said unto him, Thus saith Benhadad, 3 Thy silver and thy gold [is] mine; thy
>wives also and thy children, [even] the goodliest, [are] mine. 4 And the king of Israel
>answered and said, My lord, O king, according to thy saying, I [am] thine, and all that I
>have. 5 And the messengers came again, and said, Thus speaketh Benhadad, saying, Although
>I have sent unto thee, saying, Thou shalt deliver me thy silver, and thy gold, and thy
>wives, and thy children; 6 Yet I will send my servants unto thee to morrow about this
>time, and they shall search thine house, and the houses of thy servants; and it shall be,
>[that] whatsoever is pleasant in thine eyes, they shall put [it] in their hand, and take
>[it] away. {pleasant: Heb. desirable} 7 Then the king of Israel called all the elders of
>the land, and said, Mark, I pray you, and see how this [man] seeketh mischief: for he sent
>unto me for my wives, and for my children, and for my silver, and for my gold; and I
>denied him not. {I denied...: Heb. I kept not back from him}
> [ And now the Bible has a man giving another man his wives... So much for
>the sanctity of marriage. Won't even fight for his women. Pathetic.]
>
>
>1st Chronicles 4:5
> And Ashur the father of Tekoa had two wives, Helah and Naarah.
> [Eh, what's another one?]
>
>
>1st Chronicles 8:8
> And Shaharaim begat [children] in the country of Moab, after he had sent them away;
>Hushim and Baara [were] his wives.
> [And another...]
>
>
>2nd Chronicles 11:21-23
> And Rehoboam loved Maachah the daughter of Absalom above all his wives and his
>concubines: (for he took eighteen wives, and threescore concubines; and begat twenty and
>eight sons, and threescore daughters.) 22 And Rehoboam made Abijah the son of Maachah the
>chief, [to be] ruler among his brethren: for [he thought] to make him king. 23 And he
>dealt wisely, and dispersed of all his children throughout all the countries of Judah and
>Benjamin, unto every fenced city: and he gave them victual in abundance. And he desired
>many wives. {many wives: Heb. a multitude of wives}
> [Why look everyone! A mini Solomon!]
>
>2nd Chronicles 13:21
> But Abijah waxed mighty, and married fourteen wives, and begat twenty and two sons,
>and sixteen daughters.
> [And the examples of monogamy just keep on coming, and coming, and coming... (Double
>entendre? What double entendre?)]
>
>
>2nd Chronicles 24:3
> And Jehoiada took for him two wives; and he begat sons and daughters.
> [Whew! Just two wives this time.]
>
>
>Daniel 5:2
> Belshazzar, whiles he tasted the wine, commanded to bring the golden and silver
>vessels which his father Nebuchadnezzar had taken out of the temple which [was] in
>Jerusalem; that the king, and his princes, his wives, and his concubines, might drink
>therein. {father: or, grandfather} {taken: Chaldee brought forth}
> [Oops. Back to wives and concubines again. Will the monogamy never stop?]
>Well, if the Bible won't stop, I will. That's a fair little list of exceptions. Certainly
>more than enough to establish the falsity of a certain claim.
Wow, not so much as one quote from the Christian NT.
The Jews disobeyed God. It's the same for you and me and them - listen to God
or say hello to satan.
>Those who deliberately misrepresent the Christian -- or Judeo-Christian -- history of
>marriage are properly called liars. And since many also use this false thing to beseech
>others for money... Well, they are also frauds, social parasites, abominations even. The
>founder of the religion which many of these folks claim to follow, had something to say
>about seekers after of filthy lucre. It was not charitable. And if there is a schism
>between those who claim to be Christian, and the Christ which gave the C-H-R-I-S-T to
>Christianity... Well, it would be best to take the word of the founder, would it not?
>
>One last thought, and then I shall be done.
>It is said that same-sex marriage is a path to Satan. Consider if you will whether or not
>some people are already in bed with him. For it is written that he is the Father of
>Lies... Just a thought.
Yep, satan does his best to convince you that you don't need to listen to God.
That's how he gets his fresh meat - finding suckers.
duke, American-American
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