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Author: KingOfTheApesKingOfTheApes Date: Jun 13, 2008 12:41
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Author: John LockeJohn Locke Date: Jun 13, 2008 13:58
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:41:33 -0700 (PDT), KingOfTheApes
yahoo.com> wrote:
>Well, a man who believes --true story-- that there's an underground
>facility under Disney World where they indoctrinate children,
>qualifies as deranged. (I think they do it openly on children TV, but...
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Author: Thurisaz, Germanic barbarianThurisaz, Germanic barbarian Date: Jun 13, 2008 16:04
KingOfTheApes:
> And yet the Christians keep dreaming up gods, wars and doomsday
> scenarios, and they remain loose and dangerous...
To be fair, they're not all like that.
Of course those of them who are still quite sane might be well-advised to
speak out publicly against the morontheists, but that's another story...
> So what makes someone crazy in terms of his dreams and illusions. Is
> it that they are personal and not collective?
I'd say it's whether the claim jives with public opinion of what is "real"
or "sane" or "normal".
People are familiar with the concept of having an imaginary friend called
jebus. They are much less familiar with one called Harvey (and in a
different context :) ). Hence if you call your pal jebus people think it's
fine, but if you choose Harvey (or anything else really) for a name...
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Jun 13, 2008 16:28
On Jun 14, 6:58 am, John Locke comcast.net> wrote:> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:41:33 -0700 (PDT), KingOfTheApes
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> yahoo.com> wrote:>>Well, a man who believes --true story-- that there's an underground
>>facility under Disney World where they indoctrinate children,
>>qualifies as deranged. (I think they do it openly on children TV, but
>>that's another subject.)
>
>>And yet the Christians keep dreaming up gods, wars and doomsday
>>scenarios, and they remain loose and dangerous...
>
>>So what makes someone crazy in terms of his dreams and illusions. Is
>>it that they are personal and not collective?
>
> I think it is very personal because each person is different and each
> have different weaknesses and that leave them vulnerable to religious
> brain washing. Especially children. Once they are hooked, their
> insecurities and fears are magnified. They fear the loss of heaven and
> the pains of hell. Its an addiction fueled and perpetuated by ...
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Author: KingOfTheApesKingOfTheApes Date: Jun 13, 2008 17:56
On Jun 13, 8:44 pm, Dev wrote:
> What Christians believe cannot be rationally differentiated from a
> delusion. There is a clause that "culturally normal religious beliefs"
> can get an exemption, but this is just so Christians won't raise hell
> with psychologists like they persecute natural scientists. It assumes,
> for one thing, that all Christians believe the same thing. For
> another, it would still mean religious beliefs start off as delusions
> but infer that somehow they stop being delusions when the disease
> spreads to an unspecified number of people--it's like calling
> contagion a cure. Andrea Yates can be called psychotic for her
> religious delusions, but for some reason George W. Bush thinking God
> told him to invade Iraq is okay. It's a double-standard...
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Author: TTTT Date: Jun 13, 2008 18:27
KingOfTheApes wrote:
> Well, a man who believes --true story-- that there's an underground
> facility under Disney World where they indoctrinate children,
> qualifies as deranged. (I think they do it openly on children TV, but
> that's another subject.)
>
> And yet the Christians keep dreaming up gods, wars and doomsday
> scenarios, and they remain loose and dangerous...
>
> So what makes someone crazy in terms of his dreams and illusions. Is
> it that they are personal and not collective?
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Author: T-minus108T-minus108 Date: Jun 13, 2008 18:36
On Jun 13, 8:56 pm, KingOfTheApes yahoo.com> wrote:
they find fault with Hitler after he'd dead, but nobody finds> fault with Bush.
What? Have you missed the last few years completely? Pretty much
everyone has found fault with Bush... he's a fucking war criminal. I
seriously can't turn on the t.v. these days without hearing something
about how much Bush sucks... or how dumb he is... or how he can't
"talk right"... And even though I agree with them, i'm still really
fucking tired of hearing about it.
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: Jun 13, 2008 19:23
ALL humans are crazy. Me, thee, all Christians, and all non Christians.
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Author: chibiaboschibiabos Date: Jun 13, 2008 19:36
> Well, a man who believes --true story-- that there's an underground
> facility under Disney World where they indoctrinate children,
Most of Disney World IS under ground. "Cast members" are well aware of
this fact.
-chib
--
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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Author: Uncle VicUncle Vic Date: Jun 14, 2008 00:15
One fine day in alt.atheism, KingOfTheApes yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Well, a man who believes --true story-- that there's an underground
> facility under Disney World where they indoctrinate children,
> qualifies as deranged. (I think they do it openly on children TV, but
> that's another subject.)
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Separator of Church and Reason.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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